This fight has that Julian Jackson/Gman feel... damn

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power is equal? Not sure about that. People say Bivol can’t punch and Smith hits harder than anyone, but Bivol stopped Sully Barrera while smith couldnt. Went the distance with career SMW Jesse Hart too.

Joe KOed Hopkins and Kovalev couldnt. 1 fight apart

JOE KOED Alvarez when Kovalev couldnt twice. Hes a straight up harder ****er than Kovalev

Joe KOed Fonfara when Stevenson couldnt.




Huh? Benavidez said Bivol has one of the strongest 1-2s he's felt.



Joe had his jaw broke

Inoue had his eye socket broke and he went the distance too

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Most of what you're saying is true but I don't think Joe is going to push Beterbiev back and going based in the Vlasov fight, Joe doesn't have the best stamina when he can't come forward the entire fight. He was taking really long breaks on the ropes in that fight and against Beterbiev that's a recipe for disaster.

I guess we'll see Saturday and if you're right I'll be the first to give you your props because I don't see an all out war but rather a methodical beat down.

I think Vlasov was just too slippery for Joe. Beterbiev doesn't move as much as Vlasov and takes punches on his guard so I think Joe might have a easier time building up his offense which is pretty much his defense.

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Joe KOed Hopkins and Kovalev couldnt. 1 fight apart

JOE KOED Alvarez when Kovalev couldnt twice. Hes a straight up harder ****er than Kovalev

Joe KOed Fonfara when Stevenson couldnt.




Huh? Benavidez said Bivol has one of the strongest 1-2s he's felt.



Joe had his jaw broke

Inoue had his eye socket broke and he went the distance too

Kovalev had Alvarez pretty badly hurt in their first fight

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Kovalev had Alvarez pretty badly hurt in their first fight

Joe assaulted Alvarez and knocked him out

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More like a Golovkin vs Lemieux feeling. The biggest difference being Smith is cruder than Lemieux but Beterbiev's chin isn't as solid as Golovkin's. I still expect Betervbiev to win 7 of the first 8 and stop Joe around the 9th. KO win for Joe is possible but not likely, especially after the 4th round.

No Joe is more techinical than Lemeiux. He has way longer arms too.

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I will say this. I think Smith hits harder for one punch. However i think Both will get hurt and both can take good shots. I actually think Joe takes the better shot, but Beterbeiv is so damn strong and in such great shape he recovers really quickly. I think this fight boils down to distance. If it is on the inside or at middle range/pocket i have Beterbiev. If it is outside i have Smith punishing him with long shots as he rolls on to get into that machine mode he dopes(Beterbiev). I really ike both guys and i wish for a great fight with neither getting really hurt bad . Much respect to both guys. This could be like a Gatti -Ward type or Rafael Marquez- Israel Vasquez rivalry. Whether you agree with me or not it is a fans dream type of fight. I just feel Smiths style matches up better with Beterbiev than Bivols. I actually think Beterbiev walks down Bivol.

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Lets make this a fatal 5 way like in Pro wrestling!!!!! Canelo, Bivol, Beterbiev- Smith winner, Zurdo, and Benavidez!!!!!!

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No Joe is more techinical than Lemeiux. He has way longer arms too.

There's not a technical bone in Joe's body. At his best he coming forward, roughing guys up along the ropes. The spells of the fight when he's not throwing is because he's either tired or having a hard time figuring out how to maneuver the guy to the ropes. When he tries to set traps, it's so obvious to the opponent that no one ever falls for it.

He does have longer arms though and pretty big for the division. And while Lemieux was more explosive than Joe, I don't believe he's as physically strong as Joe.

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There's not a technical bone in Joe's body. At his best he coming forward, roughing guys up along the ropes. The spells of the fight when he's not throwing is because he's either tired or having a hard time figuring out how to maneuver the guy to the ropes. When he tries to set traps, it's so obvious to the opponent that no one ever falls for it.

He does have longer arms though and pretty big for the division. And while Lemieux was more explosive than Joe, I don't believe he's as physically strong as Joe.

you don't know what you're watching. Period.

no. he's very methodical and crafty.


you can't just get Hopkins out of there. Yes despite that age. Pascal and Kovalev couldn't.


Eleider Alvarez is an elite technician. NOBODY done him like that. Joe embarassed him.

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I predict that you will you not give Beterbiev any credit for dominating Smith when it happens, even though according to you he's slower, smaller, and less skilled.