Always so much made about Haneys power or lack of

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  • shenmue
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    #21
    Dan you are coming across like a pathetic fanboy, neither fighter tonight is that much better than the other

    I think the aussie wins but I think it's going to be close either way.
    Last edited by shenmue; 06-04-2022, 12:14 PM.

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    • SplitSecond
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      #22
      Kambosos is sloppy so his punch varies. Haney only seems to have power early. Wouldn’t be surprised if either hurts the other. Kambo is especially open to right hands, Haney can set up some monsters here.

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      • Cypocryphy
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        #23
        Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat

        One win doesn't make you anything. Mickey Bey and Lee Selby aren't even a C+ in today's environment. I respect Selby. As Davis says, Lopez is a garbage boxer.
        To be fair, Kambosos dominated Bey and Selby. Throw out the card in favor for the other boxer and you have the right score. Those judges got it right. Bey could only land a jab for the most part, and if one guy's landing power punches and the other just a jab, the former is going to win 9 times out of 10. Selby was completely dominated. Could land any punches really, and was dancing around the ring nonstop.

        This is why Kambosos was such an underdog against Teofimo. People don't know what they are looking at. Happens all the time lately. Remember Cruz vs Tank? People shat on Cruz because no one knows what they are looking at.

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        • rickJen
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          #24
          Haney has always been the favorite from day one. It still hasn't changed.
          Fact is, Kambosos has always been seen as underdog to ANY ONE of the top dogs.
          You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. I don't know what this thread is for.

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          • Cypocryphy
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            #25
            Let's face it. Most of Haney's KO's came from taco venders in Tijuana. When you try to KO Linares and can't do it, being the first man to win against him but fail to KO him, and when everyone you fight says you have no power, then you have no power. It's not the end of the world. Many guys have no power. But Haney want's to have power so badly that he might just try to prove it again with Kambosos, and if he does that, he's losing for sure.

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            • Cypocryphy
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              #26
              Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

              I’ve always thought of Linares as having above average pop tbh.

              Certainly not a ****er by any means but a decent puncher
              He does. I agree.

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                #27
                Haney is Paulie 2.0 lol even Paulie himself said it. Not a bad comparison, Paulie was skilled as hell just poorly managed.

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                • maguirre
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by billeau2

                  There always has to be a lightening rod for the haterade machine... Haterade much like coffee is in demand! For a while it was Dylan Whyte... and not it has become Haney... no reason in particular. Haney is in that haterade LImelight...
                  You guys can't help playing the victim card can't you? You don't think a fighter's style of boxing, as one example among many, could be reason for the antagonism? I won't even have to mention Haney playing the Bhop card.... Do you play victim card when Canelo, Golovkin get the haterade machine day in and day out? Why only on Haney? No fighter is spared from haterade machine, Loma, Lopez, Kambosos, etc.

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                  • Cypocryphy
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by maguirre
                    You guys can't help playing the victim card can't you? You don't think a fighter's style of boxing, as one example among many, could be reason for the antagonism? I won't even have to mention Haney playing the Bhop card.... Do you play victim card when Canelo, Golovkin get the haterade machine day in and day out? Why only on Haney? No fighter is spared from haterade machine, Loma, Lopez, Kambosos, etc.
                    Yeah. That's a fact. Every fighter that enters the limelight get's shat on by fans, for different reasons, but still.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #30
                      Nobody really rates Kambosos highly, I think most fans respect him as an underdog after he came to America and took Lopez’s titles with a clear decision win. Kambosos is the Ring champion, yes, that puts him over everyone else. But many fans who like him also acknowledge that his time at the top could be very limited. He can very likely be a “one hit wonder” or not. Who knows?

                      Haney on the other hand, we all remember his very cowardly display vs an old, past prime Linares, who was KO’ed literally the very next fight. Linares has 7 losses, all but 1 by KO. Gamboa has 5 losses, all but 1 by KO.

                      Again, vs Haney, he is an underdog in my eyes. I respect his grit and determination, not his power.

                      Haney has showed a complete lack of power vs very low or old opponents, chinny opponents. Mainly Gamboa and Linares.

                      Back before Kambosos upset Lopez, I was disappointed at Lopez for his diva behavior, refusing to give Lomachenko a rematch like a true champion, talking about $million minimum purses. It was embarrassing for me to be a Lopez supporter. Kambosos win over Lopez meant so much than just an underdog winning an upset. It showed young champions that you should put more work in before you go around trying to be the next Mayweather.

                      Haney should really have zero issues outboxing Kambosos. I mentioned a long time ago that Kambosos is calling everyone out and wants the best but that he will lose immediately, he will lose to Haney. BUT, I also said that win or lose, Kambosos is showing all these divas, real champion behavior.

                      Kambosos is the champion fans want, but he is unlikely to be the champion fans will get. Meanwhile, Devin Haney is not the champion that fans want, but that’s the champion fans will get after tonight.

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