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  • Sid-Knee
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    #141
    Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
    You mean where he made a record breaking amount of title defenses at 160? That version of Hopkins? I don't even have to say anymore. Now it's Calzaghes hands are gone just another excuse to add to your long list of them. If Alvarez and Arces opposition was weak what do you call Hamed's and Calzaghe's lmao.
    Tell me the difference between prime Hopkins compared the one Calzaghe fought? Give me the tell-tale signs?

    List the world class wins for Arce?

    Are you saying Calzaghe didn't have hand problems? Calzaghe was punching as hard in the Eubank fight compared to Kessler, Hopkins and Jones?

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      #142
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee

      Tell me the difference between prime Hopkins compared the one Calzaghe fought? Give me the tell-tale signs?

      List the world class wins for Arce?

      Are you saying Calzaghe didn't have hand problems? Calzaghe was punching as hard in the Eubank fight compared to Kessler, Hopkins and Jones?
      Middleweight title defenses did you miss that? Did you forget he had already lost to Taylor twice before?

      I already did he knocked out 4 fighters who had never been knocked out and they were all better than anyone Calzaghe faced. Alvarez is old even though he had been on a winning streak but Hopkins and Jones were young and in their primes lmao. What prime champions did Calzaghe beat?

      I don't give a **** about Calzaghes hand's must be something in the British water because they have weak bones just like Kell Brook, Dubois and BJS orbital bones. Just another excuse for slap hands Calzaghes boring ass points fighter with no power.

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        #143
        Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
        Middleweight title defenses did you miss that? Did you forget he had already lost to Taylor twice before?

        I already did he knocked out 4 fighters who had never been knocked out and they were all better than anyone Calzaghe faced. Alvarez is old even though he had been on a winning streak but Hopkins and Jones were young and in their primes lmao. What prime champions did Calzaghe beat?

        I don't give a **** about Calzaghes hand's must be something in the British water because they have weak bones just like Kell Brook, Dubois and BJS orbital bones. Just another excuse for slap hands Calzaghes boring ass points fighter with no power.
        I know Hopkins was at Middleweight. What has that got to do with it?

        So you're a shot fighter if you lose? So Hamed was shot by the fact he lost to Barrera?

        Tell me the difference between Middleweight Hopkins and the one Calzaghe fought? What are the signs he was shot? Point them out to me?

        List the world class wins for Jorge Arce?

        Keep on embarrassing yourself with the deflections. But this will go on until you quit or answer.

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        • Kannabis Kid
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          #144
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee

          I know Hopkins was at Middleweight. What has that got to do with it?

          So you're a shot fighter if you lose? So Hamed was shot by the fact he lost to Barrera?

          Tell me the difference between Middleweight Hopkins and the one Calzaghe fought? What are the signs he was shot? Point them out to me?

          List the world class wins for Jorge Arce?

          Keep on embarrassing yourself with the deflections. But this will go on until you quit or answer.
          Lmao no you didn't you thought his prime started in his 40's you said it yourself.

          Yeah he was according to you, you literally said that Hamed was already on his way out when he fought Barrera his daddy lmao. Even though he wasn't how can you compare a young Hamed to an old Hopkins you are a bag of bricks man.

          The fact that he was 40 already and had lost twice to the same person before he fought cokehead Calzaghe.

          Lol the only one being embarrassed is you little Sydney I already listed Arces wins and you denied them but you literally listed 2 weak ass paper champs for Calzaghes resume and they were legit hahaha.

          How many 4 division champions does the UK have? US has multiple as well as Mexico you know #1 and #2 when it comes to boxing and the most champions worldwide in case you forgot.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
            Lmao no you didn't you thought his prime started in his 40's you said it yourself.

            Yeah he was according to you, you literally said that Hamed was already on his way out when he fought Barrera his daddy lmao. Even though he wasn't how can you compare a young Hamed to an old Hopkins you are a bag of bricks man.

            The fact that he was 40 already and had lost twice to the same person before he fought cokehead Calzaghe.

            Lol the only one being embarrassed is you little Sydney I already listed Arces wins and you denied them but you literally listed 2 weak ass paper champs for Calzaghes resume and they were legit hahaha.

            How many 4 division champions does the UK have? US has multiple as well as Mexico you know #1 and #2 when it comes to boxing and the most champions worldwide in case you forgot.
            Your delusion has created this idea that i claimed the prime of Hopkins started in his 40's? Yeah, i never. That's your insanity again. I said he was still close to prime when he fought Joe. But you claim he was shot. So, tell me what the difference is between the version you consider prime to the one Joe fought?

            Age doesn't dictate prime. Hopkins and Hamed have no connection. The same way Fernando Vargas and Hopkins don't when comparing their age.

            Losing doesn't dictate whether you're prime or not. Many fighters lose for one reason or another. But your contradiction is clear. If Hopkins losing meant he was shot, then Naz losing means he was shot too. The same goes for anyone who loses. But you know your lunacy and pathological delusions by now. You've had them pointed out one too many times now.

            You didn't list the world class fighters Arce beat. You listed fighters who were stopped for the first time in their careers. That's completely different. Calzaghe was the first to stop Shieka, but that isn't the reason to why i claim it's a world class win. I claim so because he beat a world class fighter. Byron Mitchell was stopped for the first in his career by Calzaghe, but the same applies. Mitchell wasn't world class because he was stopped for the first time. He's world class due to beating other world class fighters.

            List the world class fighters Arce beat? He's clearly a bum because you can't name anyone he beat that wasn't completely shot by the time he fought them. Anyone prime or close to, beat him.

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              #146
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee

              Your delusion has created this idea that i claimed the prime of Hopkins started in his 40's? Yeah, i never. That's your insanity again. I said he was still close to prime when he fought Joe. But you claim he was shot. So, tell me what the difference is between the version you consider prime to the one Joe fought?

              Age doesn't dictate prime. Hopkins and Hamed have no connection. The same way Fernando Vargas and Hopkins don't when comparing their age.

              Losing doesn't dictate whether you're prime or not. Many fighters lose for one reason or another. But your contradiction is clear. If Hopkins losing meant he was shot, then Naz losing means he was shot too. The same goes for anyone who loses. But you know your lunacy and pathological delusions by now. You've had them pointed out one too many times now.

              You didn't list the world class fighters Arce beat. You listed fighters who were stopped for the first time in their careers. That's completely different. Calzaghe was the first to stop Shieka, but that isn't the reason to why i claim it's a world class win. I claim so because he beat a world class fighter. Byron Mitchell was stopped for the first in his career by Calzaghe, but the same applies. Mitchell wasn't world class because he was stopped for the first time. He's world class due to beating other world class fighters.

              List the world class fighters Arce beat? He's clearly a bum because you can't name anyone he beat that wasn't completely shot by the time he fought them. Anyone prime or close to, beat him.
              Haha close to prime he wasn't though that's the whole point he was prime at middleweight that's the clear difference.

              Lmao he lost one fight and retired that's just an excuse for knowing he wasn't top level.

              Nope because Hopkins actually was a long reigning title holder and was on his way out and Hamed had barely fought anyone of note and retired young so he could become a fatass clear difference, if Hamed's style was better he would've lasted longer he just knew he reached his cap when there weren't any more Augie Sanchez's lying around.

              All those fighters were top level in those weight classes especially Cob Castro and Rosendo. Do you mean the same Bryon Mitchell who lost the Ottke literally in the fight right before he fought Calazaghe? Or when he went on to get knocked out another 8 times after losing to Joe? During Calzaghes entire title reign he only fought 3 undefeated fighters and his only good win is against Mikkel Kessler. He also lost to Robin Reid even the English know this.

              Funniest part is Arce is a 4 division champion something no Brit will probably ever do. So who are the bums haha? Even if by some miracle you all got that achievement you would still be behind the US and Mexico when it comes to boxing and multi division champions always, and these are facts that are too big for you to handle little Sydney.

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                #147
                Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
                Haha close to prime he wasn't though that's the whole point he was prime at middleweight that's the clear difference.

                Lmao he lost one fight and retired that's just an excuse for knowing he wasn't top level.

                Nope because Hopkins actually was a long reigning title holder and was on his way out and Hamed had barely fought anyone of note and retired young so he could become a fatass clear difference, if Hamed's style was better he would've lasted longer he just knew he reached his cap when there weren't any more Augie Sanchez's lying around.

                All those fighters were top level in those weight classes especially Cob Castro and Rosendo. Do you mean the same Bryon Mitchell who lost the Ottke literally in the fight right before he fought Calazaghe? Or when he went on to get knocked out another 8 times after losing to Joe? During Calzaghes entire title reign he only fought 3 undefeated fighters and his only good win is against Mikkel Kessler. He also lost to Robin Reid even the English know this.

                Funniest part is Arce is a 4 division champion something no Brit will probably ever do. So who are the bums haha? Even if by some miracle you all got that achievement you would still be behind the US and Mexico when it comes to boxing and multi division champions always, and these are facts that are too big for you to handle little Sydney.
                Hopkins has a better resume after losing to Calzaghe than nearly every Mexican fighter in history. But i'm asking for the difference between the Hopkins Calzaghe fought to the one you think was prime. You haven't given it to me. You're giving strawman arguments and the usual nonsense. Try again. I'll keep on asking until you do. But deflections like a coward work too. It's more humiliating that way.

                Naz was the very top level. That's why he was the Featherweight champion for over 5 years and ran that division. It's the reason he's an ATG too. Featherweight was Naz's 4th weight. No Mexican has ever achieved close to that in their 4th weight class. Never will either.

                Naz wasn't top level, but a shot Alvarez was? A shot Castro was? Haha. And you coming out with fighters losses after they've been beaten in their prime. They were both shot and Castro has 25 losses. That's how deluded and deranged you are. You're beyond logic and reality. You're a clown with no shame. Just an embarrassment.

                Mitchell lost by 1 point on my card to Ottke. It was a razor close fight. Mitchell turned down Calzaghe for more money like everyone else did and thought he'd try and get Ottke's title instead. He came back with his tail between his legs after that fight though and got smacked about and stopped in 2.

                Arce's titles are completely worthless as he didn't beat anyone world class. They're less than paper. All i ask is to beat a world class fighter either for the title, or in defence to justify it. He didn't do either.

                List Arce's world class win? We both know he's a bum. Your lack of names is clear to these facts.

                The UK is ahead Of Mexico in boxing in every area. We've already established those facts. What you're thinking in your head after the fact we both confirmed it, is nothing but delusion.

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                • Kannabis Kid
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                  #148
                  Calzaghe fought a past prime Hopkins and the first time Hamed fought a world class Mexican he got sent into retirement these are facts. Just like Mexico having more champions than all the UK combined. Facts. Multiple Mexicans have won titles in multiple divisions did Naseem? How many losses did Castro have when he actually faced Arce? Did he go on to capture a title after he lost? The answer is yes. Did Hamed win a title after getting dominated by Barrera? The answer is he retired like a *****.

                  The UK is number 3 sucks but it's true.

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