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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #51
    Originally posted by just the facts
    Helluva fight. I’m learning towards Spence (very talented fighter, the naturally bigger fighter) over Crawford (very talented fighter, the smaller fighter).
    That's what I used to think too. Now Bud is too seasoned at welter and has the way better skills.

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      #52
      Accident or no accident, Spence is good but limited. Bud Crawford is simply a level above Spence.

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        #53
        Originally posted by archiemoore1
        My name is Bud so of course, Bud all day. And I know Bud can whip Charlo too. I just don't like the idea fighters leaving welterweight for 154, when there's a young lion on the rise at welterweight in Boots Ennis. It doesn't look good. It looks the same as it does when Canelo was hopping around in weight to avoid Andrade and later, Benavidez. Same as when Tank Davis was doing it to avoid Loma. I'm not saying Bud is avoiding Boots. I don't believe he is. I'm just saying fighters should clean out their own division b4 moving up, so there can be no discussion in history that they avoided certain fighters
        Bud is 35yo. He aint got no time to wait for that Ennis.

        There is bigger fish to fry.

        Charlo is way more dangerous and more proven than Ennis, and it's a It's obviously the better fight seeing as it would be for undisputed status.

        There is no sane person who can complain about Crawford fighting Charlo instead of Ennis.

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          #54
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          Accident or no accident, Spence is good but limited. Bud Crawford is simply a level above Spence.





          those guys are both on the same level, no question... Crawford is elite, but so is Spence


          Crawford will have to be 100% ready, both physically and mentally... and he will need to be right on top of his game... or... he will lose that fight


          this is how I see it...


          ... if both guys have no problems in camp... if they are both 100% healthy, 100% prepared, 100% ready... Crawford's style will give
          Spence problems


          Spence will struggle to
          exert the same consistent pressure, and impose the same physicality, that we saw with Brook/Porter/Ugas


          Crawford has a phenomenal skillset, he is very well-rounded... but the main problem that Spence will have is, Crawford has a very tight game


          Porter commented on that... he said, things that always work for him... did not work as well, or at all... against Crawford


          when Brook fought Crawford, things that were working well for him early in that fight... not only became less effective, they started to cause Brook problems when Crawford adapted.. he adjusted his game... started closing down Brooks options, and started adding/tweaking/trying things to exploit that advantage


          I just think that Spence will struggle to solve the Crawford puzzle because Crawford's game is too tight... Spence will not have the same options, things that usually work will not have the same impact... especially down the stretch, when Spence is not as sharp and Crawford has adjusted to his style/timing


          but... I do think that will be a very close fight


          I don't see a stoppage, and I don't see a blowout... it will be nip-n-tuck for long periods, especially early... with a lot of close rounds


          I don't expect a war, the fight could even be pretty uninspiring at times... I think it will be a tense, high-level, chess match... that will not really loosen up and start to unfold until the second half of the fight


          Crawford UD12, or SD12... in a tight, close - and possibly even controversial - fight... that will fail to live up to the (unrealistic) expectations of most boxing fans... with Spence struggling to stamp his mark on the fight, and Crawford bringing a very tight game with little risk / aggression


          or, I could be totally wrong... and that stuff I just wrote is total bullshlt


          enjoy the fight bro








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            #55
            Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
            Accident or no accident, Spence is good but limited. Bud Crawford is simply a level above Spence.
            It appears that way but for one thing, you can never count out a dead game dog, lots of flash has been broken by a foe that doesn't stop coming.

            This is the type of fight I would never bet on.

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              #56
              Originally posted by archiemoore1
              My name is Bud so of course, Bud all day. And I know Bud can whip Charlo too. I just don't like the idea fighters leaving welterweight for 154, when there's a young lion on the rise at welterweight in Boots Ennis. It doesn't look good. It looks the same as it does when Canelo was hopping around in weight to avoid Andrade and later, Benavidez. Same as when Tank Davis was doing it to avoid Loma. I'm not saying Bud is avoiding Boots. I don't believe he is. I'm just saying fighters should clean out their own division b4 moving up, so there can be no discussion in history that they avoided certain fighters







              Andrade...


              REALLY ?


              when you decided to invent a boogieman, and then pretend that Canelo ducked him..... you should have stuck with Benavidez


              pretending that Canelo ducked Benavidez is also pretty dumb, but not as dumb as pretending that Andrade is a boogieman


              dude, that was fkn dumb


              forget the fact that Andrade has never fought a world-class opponent..... not one, EVER !!


              and... forget the fact that nobody in their right mind thinks that Andrade could beat Canelo LMAO


              this is what you needed to remember before you started pretending that Andrade is some kind of boogieman..... Demetrius Andrade is the current WBO Middleweight Champion, and Canelo Alvarez is the current WBO Super-Middleweight Champion..... and according to the WBO rules... a WBO champion is automatically granted a mandatory challenge against a WBO champion in a higher division, whenever he wants... he just needs to ask


              Andrade can force Canelo to fight him... ANY... TIME... HE... WANTS


              which begs the question...


              1) why do you think boogieman Andrade has not forced Canelo to fight him ?


              dude, do you really think that Andrade can beat Canelo?... REALLY ???


              because... I literally cannot think of a bigger cherry-pick for Canelo - from 160 to 175 - than Demetrius Andrade... he is LITERALLY the worse possible opponent that Canelo could select,
              he does not even have a punchers chance to win that fight


              Andrade has NONE of the attributes that enabled Bivol to beat Canelo


              he does not have the height..... he does not have the reach..... he does not have the power.....
              he does not have the timing..... and, he does not have the experience... that Bivol had..... and Andrade's biggest problem is, his style..... he over-moves..... you need to have a a really tight game if you want to survive - let alone beat - someone like Canelo


              top fighters make you miss them by an inch, but Andrade makes lesser / slower fighters miss him by more than 2 feet... he over-moves... by taking unnecessary steps and unnecessarily using exaggerated body-movement... which shifts his weight and affects his balance / technique / coordination / timing... and prevents him from being in the right position to sit on his counters


              how could Andrade keep Canelo off him, if he cannot deter him... like I said, he does not even have a punchers chance in that fight


              and chill about Benavidez, that shlt was also pretty dumb... it is clearly obvious that fight will happen... Benavidez aint going nowhere, and neither is Canelo









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                #57
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime








                Andrade...


                REALLY ?


                when you decided to invent a boogieman, and then pretend that Canelo ducked him..... you should have stuck with Benavidez


                pretending that Canelo ducked Benavidez is also pretty dumb, but not as dumb as pretending that Andrade is a boogieman


                dude, that was fkn dumb


                forget the fact that Andrade has never fought a world-class opponent..... not one, EVER !!


                and... forget the fact that nobody in their right mind thinks that Andrade could beat Canelo LMAO


                this is what you needed to remember before you started pretending that Andrade is some kind of boogieman..... Demetrius Andrade is the current WBO Middleweight Champion, and Canelo Alvarez is the current WBO Super-Middleweight Champion..... and according to the WBO rules... a WBO champion is automatically granted a mandatory challenge against a WBO champion in a higher division, whenever he wants... he just needs to ask


                Andrade can force Canelo to fight him... ANY... TIME... HE... WANTS


                which begs the question...


                1) why do you think boogieman Andrade has not forced Canelo to fight him ?


                dude, do you really think that Andrade can beat Canelo?... REALLY ???


                because... I literally cannot think of a bigger cherry-pick for Canelo - from 160 to 175 - than Demetrius Andrade... he is LITERALLY the worse possible opponent that Canelo could select,
                he does not even have a punchers chance to win that fight


                Andrade has NONE of the attributes that enabled Bivol to beat Canelo


                he does not have the height..... he does not have the reach..... he does not have the power.....
                he does not have the timing..... and, he does not have the experience... that Bivol had..... and Andrade's biggest problem is, his style..... he over-moves..... you need to have a a really tight game if you want to survive - let alone beat - someone like Canelo


                top fighters make you miss them by an inch, but Andrade makes lesser / slower fighters miss him by more than 2 feet... he over-moves... by taking unnecessary steps and unnecessarily using exaggerated body-movement... which shifts his weight and affects his balance / technique / coordination / timing... and prevents him from being in the right position to sit on his counters


                how could Andrade keep Canelo off him, if he cannot deter him... like I said, he does not even have a punchers chance in that fight


                and chill about Benavidez, that shlt was also pretty dumb... it is clearly obvious that fight will happen... Benavidez aint going nowhere, and neither is Canelo









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                Damn bro. Ur so smart. I never heard such boxing knowledge b4. I'm humbled to be taught by the God Hand of boxing. Ty sir... I said it b4 and I'll say it again. Canelo obviously avoids certain fighters. He previously blatantly ran from both Andrade and Benavidez. and he ran to Bivol, someone he thought was sweet. Bivol kicked his ass. If u didnt see it with your own eyes, u would be trying to defend that asswhipping too. Styles make fights and Canelo knows this. So he avoids styles and fighters that are trouble for him. Period

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by archiemoore1

                  Damn bro. Ur so smart. I never heard such boxing knowledge b4. I'm humbled to be taught by the God Hand of boxing. Ty sir... I said it b4 and I'll say it again. Canelo obviously avoids certain fighters. He previously blatantly ran from both Andrade and Benavidez. and he ran to Bivol, someone he thought was sweet. Bivol kicked his ass. If u didnt see it with your own eyes, u would be trying to defend that asswhipping too. Styles make fights and Canelo knows this. So he avoids styles and fighters that are trouble for him. Period





                  that is just casual-fan sillyness

                  FACT: Andrade could force that fight whenever he wants

                  if he aint crying about it, why are you ?

                  nobody thinks that Andrade can beat Canelo, including Canelo

                  seeing you bought up fighters who duck mover/spoilers, from the other thread...



                  Canelo is a MUCH better fighter than Golovkin..... and, there are multiple ways that he can win

                  also, Canelo knows exactly how to fight him..... he will make better adjustments, because he is more skilled and more well-rounded than Plodkin

                  imo, Canelo should mix it up... he should start with the same gameplan they had in the first fight, using movement / skills / ringIQ... Golovkin had no answer for that..... the reason why ALL THREE JUDGES awarded the same 5 rounds to Canelo.... is because those 5 rounds were clear, and not even close..... Golovkin was soundly out-boxed.....

                  ..... and then Canelo should switch it up, and start to apply pressure down the stretch..... like he did in the rematch, lighting Golovkin up with that thudding bodywork and those sharp judge-friendly counters

                  there is a damn good reason why Golovkin avoided so many mover / spoilers... he never fought any of them, not a single one

                  I always knew why he was avoiding those guys, it was clearly obvious

                  the blueprint how to beat a puncher was established well over a hundred years ago, and we saw that in the first fight

                  Abel Sanchez even admitted that Golovkin's power is only effective when his opponent is standing right in front of him

                  which is exactly why they were pleading with Canelo to stand and fight like a Mexican.....
                  that really was bollocks

                  props to Canelo for walking Golovkin down in the rematch..... but this time Canelo should use his skills/movement to take the fight away from Golovkin, and then apply pressure and look to punish him down the stretch

                  Golovkin missed well over 1000 punches in those fights..... Canelo should not give Golovkin any opportunity to settle into a rhythm that may play to his style..... he should remove those opportunities, just like he did early in the first fight


                  good on you for keeping the faith, but I think most people can see what is going to happen in that fight








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                    #59
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime






                    that is just casual-fan sillyness

                    FACT: Andrade could force that fight whenever he wants

                    if he aint crying about it, why are you ?

                    nobody thinks that Andrade can beat Canelo, including Canelo

                    seeing you bought up fighters who duck mover/spoilers, from the other thread...



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                    I guess when Canelo ran from GGG like a thief in the 1st fight, u didn't notice that, huh? In the 2nd fight u must have gone to the fridge for snacks in the last round when GGG busted Canelo's face wide open with a strong uppercut and had him leaking clenbuterol filled blood from his eye
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by archiemoore1
                      I guess when Canelo ran from GGG like a thief in the 1st fight, u didn't notice that, huh? In the 2nd fight u must have gone to the fridge for snacks in the last round when GGG busted Canelo's face wide open with a strong uppercut and had him leaking clenbuterol filled blood from his eye





                      I guess when GGG ran from Canelo like a thief in the rematch, u didn't notice that, huh?

                      he begged Canelo to stand and fight like a Mexican..... but when Canelo did stand and fight like A Mexican, Jabkin ran like a bltch

                      Canelo beat the Mexican out of him LMAO

                      after the trilogy..... I will be calling him Lumpkin again, just like I did after the rematch







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