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  • #71
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
    Joshua is not as spooked by Uysk, like people are always trying to make out.

    Yes beating Usyk is a momentous Challenge. Simply because nobody has ever achieved such a feat.

    But Joshua for me, is not as daunted by this rematch 'Like he was with Ruiz Junior'.

    I think Joshua has more positives to take from his fight with Usyk, than he did from his first fight with Ruiz Junior etc.

    Physically his toughest fight to date, was against Wladimir Kiltschko. That fight was the greatest heavyweight title fight of the past 20 years.
    what positives are that? That he landed on Usyk in the fifth round? Or that the ref didn’t notice the towel getting thrown in so it went the distance?

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Shrap View Post
      What's with boxers always saying their toughest fights are against opponents they've defeated? I'm guessing it's an ego thing.
      The hardest punchers are 90% of the times the ones they KOed too.
      Last edited by YGriffith; 05-21-2022, 09:03 AM. Reason: Missed a word

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Jkp View Post
        What about the obese small Mexican guy that beat him so bad he quit, and ran back to England. never to be seen on usa shores again.

        Was that a tough fight?
        Punch from the gods, mate

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        • #74
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

          Did Tyson Fury even hurt Kiltschko? Fury won the fight. But lets be real, he was backed up all night.

          He merely out pointed Kiltschko with trickery. Fury in no way, shape or form destroyed Kiltschko.

          Tyson Fury has just had his last fight against, a fighter who Joshua ****** out and destroyed many years ago.

          Anthony Joshua's win over Wladimir Kiltschko was more conclusive than Fury's win.
          Yes actually. 10th or 11th round he would have dropped Wlad had the ref not jumped in.

          styles make fights. The fact that you keep talking up Wlad almost knocking Joshua out two years after looking like a confused amateur for 12 rounds is quite telling. Just because a boxing match is boring in your eyes doesn’t mean it doesn’t count.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by tokon View Post

            Hahaha, yes, you're right, my bad.

            But I don't see the fight with Joshua as a passing of the guard fight either. The Fury fight had diminished that.
            Klitschko would have resumed boxing if A.J wasn’t around ,Klitschko said it himself no one but A.J was capable of beating him so yes it was definitely passing of the guard that was the only reason Klitschko called it a day he said A.J would be to good because he’d get better . Fury had publicly announced retirement,you don’t pass a retired guy anything ,A.J earned that title . No one remotely only having 2 title defenses is a Klitschko predecessor, it’s just not realistic .

            A.J was the unified champion like Klitschko with multiple title defenses and if he defeats Usyk has the absolute best resume in the division since the Klitschko brothers themselves . Should Fury decide not to fight him he doesn’t get a fantasy win either ,he doesn’t get a win over A.J at all .
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 05-21-2022, 10:01 AM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

              what positives are that? That he landed on Usyk in the fifth round? Or that the ref didn’t notice the towel getting thrown in so it went the distance?
              Usyk was battered. If Usyk could not drop Joshua in that 12 round, after landing multiple big power punches? The odds are he is not going to knock Joshua down with a single punch ever.

              The positives Joshua can take from the first fight are as follows.

              1: Usyk was battered after the end of the 12 rounds, even though Joshua was not fighting a 100% aggressive fight. Joshua has visual conformation of the physical damage he caused Usyk.

              2: Joshua lasted the full 12 rounds.

              3: Joshua was competitive in 90-95% of the rounds, whether he won the or not. The fact of the matter was, he was competitive. Competitive while fighting a game-plan that was not utilizing his strengths.

              4: Joshua did not suffer any knock downs.

              This rematch is not a daunting for Joshua to prepare for in comparison to Ruiz Junior. All the evidence in Joshua's reaction after the fight, and his behavior of late points to this. Joshua is not afraid like people are trying to make out.

              But don't get me wrong, skill for skill this is a harder fight to win for Joshua than Ruiz Junior. But the danger element, is less. I don't think Joshua has the same anticipation of danger from Usyk etc.

              It is a momentous challenge for Anthony Joshua, but make no doubt about it? He is game.







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              • #77
                Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

                Yes actually. 10th or 11th round he would have dropped Wlad had the ref not jumped in.

                styles make fights. The fact that you keep talking up Wlad almost knocking Joshua out two years after looking like a confused amateur for 12 rounds is quite telling. Just because a boxing match is boring in your eyes doesn’t mean it doesn’t count.
                At no point in the fight was Fury, anywhere near to dropping Wladimir Kiltschko.

                Stop making things up mate.

                I have said nothing about styles being boring. I am just describing the fight.

                Fury was backed up all night, did not really hurt Kiltschko at any stage. And merely out pointed Kiltschko with trickery.

                The kind of trickery that does not work twice. Especially not with a boxer who is as meticulous and analytical as Wladimir kiltschko.

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                • #78
                  lots of fighters say rubbish like this, they usually say someone who they beat or lost to narrowly was their hardest fighter rather than someone who whooped them, maybe they just cant come to terms it with mentally or something or trying to kid themselves that they werent properly prepared for the fight they lost badly i.e if it was the version of me that fought klitschko i would have beat usyk. fact is he was completely exposed against usyk, im a joshua fan but what can you say he looked like a ****ing bum in that fight, completely outclassed and lucky not to get stopped at the end. hes done and i think you'll see in the rematch that he is mentally broken, probably quit.

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                  • #79
                    Best thing about Joshua is he is up for fighting anyone and doesn't say he is going to retire before and after every fight.

                    I don't see AJ beating Usyk. But you never know.... He tried in a couple of rounds in the last fight to use brute force on Usyk but he just got countered. He doesn't have the chin to steamroller him. Least he will have tried though. Fury straight out retired to avoid Usyk - we all know Fury will come back suddenly if Joshua does win lol

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      Klitschko would have resumed boxing if A.J wasn’t around ,Klitschko said it himself no one but A.J was capable of beating him so yes it was definitely passing of the guard that was the only reason Klitschko called it a day he said A.J would be to good because he’d get better . Fury had publicly announced retirement,you don’t pass a retired guy anything ,A.J earned that title . No one remotely only having 2 title defenses is a Klitschko predecessor, it’s just not realistic .

                      A.J was the unified champion like Klitschko with multiple title defenses and if he defeats Usyk has the absolute best resume in the division since the Klitschko brothers themselves . Should Fury decide not to fight him he doesn’t get a fantasy win either ,he doesn’t get a win over A.J at all .
                      AJ would be too good because he'd get better...yet he ended up losing to smaller men like Andy Ruiz and Usyk AFTER the Klitschko fight.

                      You are in severe denial.

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