When You Say a Fighter Ran

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  • TernceBudCharlo
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    When You Say a Fighter Ran

    What you are really saying is that the fighter you support is basic and lacking in fundamentals. You are saying your fighter is DUMB and only knows how to follow his opponent, Cutting off the ring is a basic skill, the combination of using your footwork to move SIDEWAYS and use LATERAL movement to keep your opponent in front of you and pump out the jab to pinpoint him on the ropes and block escape routes. Fighters like Foreman and Chavez did this brilliantly.

    Against a highly skilled pressure fighter it is impossible to "run." If a fighter is able to "run" it just means the offensive fighter lacks fundamentals.

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    problem is a lot of the posters on here are only happy when its rock em sock em robots.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #3
      Originally posted by Madison boxing
      problem is a lot of the posters on here are only happy when its rock em sock em robots.
      I love a good brawl as much as anyone but it's more of an accomplishment when you have to work for it to land the target.

      Even though Taylor is one of my favorite fighters, was winning the early 2/3 of the fight, the way Chavez gradually fatigued him through his suffocating pressure and cuting off the ring was brilliant. Skills like that are lost today.

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      • RoadOfTheGypsy
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        I look at it from a boxing stand point. Some fans who don't box look at it from an entertainment stand point.

        If the fighter is "running around" the fans aren't entertained. They enjoy brutal slugfests. They cannot appreciate the art of boxing and the technical aspects of it. That is the issue I believe, when fans are saying someone 'ran' it means they didn't engage in a spartan like display of sluggery that the fan wished to see.

        I like a slugfest as well, but from a boxer point of view, I would not value people's entertainment over my health. Blocking shots with your face like Mayorga and taunting may be exciting, but your brains aren't as excited and its just not boxing. Hit and dont get hit is the name of the game
        Last edited by RoadOfTheGypsy; 05-19-2022, 06:06 PM.

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        • YoungManRumble
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          #5
          If someone is boxing and moving and fighting back it's one thing. But what about like Jesse Hart running from Joe Smith Jr the entire fight barely engaging.

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          • tritium_arma
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            #6
            Depends. If the one fighter is actively moving away from another and neither are in ever in a position to land a punch then it's running. Just moving backward wouldn't be running though.

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            • siablo14
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              #7
              Rigondeaux vs Casimero?

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              • Mammoth
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                #8
                Lol look at my avatar

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                • YoungManRumble
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                  #9
                  Or yeah that's an even better example lol

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                  • 1hourRun
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                    #10
                    Its not only about possessing basic fundamentals or lack of understanding ( although in many instances that is the case ), like as the OP mentioned 'Cutting the ring' : a lot of that ability is determined by conditioning, most ''runners'' have excellent cardio -- beyond most standards.

                    The mover tires the aggressor, mentally frustrating them and then physically through the excess movement and punching as the come-forward fighter tries to force an exchange ; then you got the clinching by these slicksters. And the worst part, the acting, sht is not even boxing at times.

                    Another thing to consider is that sometimes, the aggressor is doing well 'cutting-of-the-ring' but he lacks the proper arsenal to effectively attack : for example some boxers depend on a hook, others on straight-punches, some dont even have body-attacks -- which help slow down the moving opponent.

                    It could be complicated and not just as simple as getting in range.
                    Last edited by 1hourRun; 05-19-2022, 07:43 PM.

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