Usyk vs Joshua 2. Predictions?

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #11
    Originally posted by AlexKid_The Return
    Who do you have winning and why?
    - - What, U empty noggin needs us to fill it up?

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    • AlexKid_The Return
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      #12


      If Joshua isnt throwing all punches like he throws some (like at the start of this video) I think he has failed as a professional boxer. Drag all the fking punches FFS!

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      See above for s,h,i,t/average kinetic linking vs great kinetic linking, hip control and so hip repetition is a big part of being able to do this, the more you can control the hips the more easily you can drag your body, see Ruiz on teh bag starting with very light small range of motion, but very high quality punches, then working up to many harder bigger range of motion punches, thats a good method for the reps


      I also think he should go with the flow of his poor cardio high power and inferior boxing skill (only compared to Usyk) and go all out trying to "genetically bully him" early

      Im a fan of both fighters I dont want to get involved in this but, I dont want to see Joshua at a low point, with 2 losses.

      If he throws his bombs properly and takes educated aggressive risks early then coasts the rest of the match with the jab and defensive boxing, if that initial onslaught doesn't work out, I think it may be his best bet.

      He also doesn't turn his punches as efficiently, (nothing wrong with that) but thats a big part of Usyks skill advantage.

      Cmon Joshua cmon Usyk, its time for aggressive offence from Joshua, give us a hell of a show!!
      Last edited by AlexKid_The Return; 05-19-2022, 07:33 PM.

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        #13
        Considering how terrible usyk has been looking I got aj. Unless aj somehow shows up worse.

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        • Motofan
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          #14
          It depends on Usyk. The pictures I’ve seen of him make him look VERY light. Is he anywhere near fighting weight? Plus, he’s been in a literal war zone and his country is still going to be at war when he fights. How mentally prepared will he be? How focused on boxing will he be? If he’s ready I give him a great chance to stop Joshua. I keep hearing that Joshua plans to basically maul Usyk which will open him up to easy counters and tire him out. If Usyk is 100% I think he beats the absolute dog**** out of Joshua. Like, in a humiliating, taking out the frustrations of war on him kind of way. If he’s not ready (for the reasons listed above) who knows? I can tell you that this fight is far more interesting to me now but it sucks that it’s because I think there is a solid chance that Usyk won’t be at his mental or physical best.

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          • Earl-Hickey
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            #15
            I don't think Joshua will be able to make the adjustments he needs to.

            Don't get me wrong I think Joshua is certainly CAPABLE of winning the fight, but I've stated before his issues are more mental than physical, he is severely lacking in confidence and seems confused as to his own identity tbh.

            The changes in style he would need to comfortably be able to beat Usyk should have already been made after Ruiz 1 tbh, because its actually a lot of the same issues.

            So yeah I'm like 80% Usyk will win, 20% Joshua because Joshua does have the power to severely disrupt the fight with one flush shot, and also the fight wasn't quite as 1 sided as people think last time, Joshua won some rounds and gave Usyk a nasty cut, so he obviously is capable of at least some success.
            Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 05-19-2022, 08:33 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Motofan
              It depends on Usyk. The pictures I’ve seen of him make him look VERY light. Is he anywhere near fighting weight? Plus, he’s been in a literal war zone and his country is still going to be at war when he fights. How mentally prepared will he be? How focused on boxing will he be? If he’s ready I give him a great chance to stop Joshua. I keep hearing that Joshua plans to basically maul Usyk which will open him up to easy counters and tire him out. If Usyk is 100% I think he beats the absolute dog**** out of Joshua. Like, in a humiliating, taking out the frustrations of war on him kind of way. If he’s not ready (for the reasons listed above) who knows? I can tell you that this fight is far more interesting to me now but it sucks that it’s because I think there is a solid chance that Usyk won’t be at his mental or physical best.
              I agree 100% we will basically know by how the fight goes

              Usyk wins by epic, 1 sided total anihalation

              Or

              Joshua wins and its only because Usyk is mentally and physically ruined by the war and basically anyone could have beat him

              That's the two options.

              Also if the fight is close or Usyk gets dropped or looks anything but perfect, it's because of the war and how deeply it has effected Usyk.

              I also want to get this in now Usyk looks like a holocaust victim and honestly this fight shouldn't be sanctioned, Usyk lives in constant, unceasing darkness as he is troubled 24/7 by images of the war, he can't sleep, can't eat, he looks terrible, Joshua has more advantages than any fighter in history over current Usyk.
              Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 05-19-2022, 08:35 PM.

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                #17
                A.J will most likely stop Usyk ,he had him hurt a few times with limited set up punches and that wasn’t even his best interest fighting Usyks game but that’s what A.J has done mostly with opponents is fight their strengths and he gets hate when he proves you guys wrong all the time ,an A.J putting shots together will see Usyks eyes rolling again but he will be far more aware of the angles and the rounds this time . People can say he didn’t lay a glove on him but these people are the ones who are most likely very intoxicated and don’t watch fights back again .
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 05-19-2022, 08:36 PM.

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                • Motofan
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

                  I agree 100% we will basically know by how the fight goes

                  Usyk wins by epic, 1 sided total anihalation

                  Or

                  Joshua wins and its only because Usyk is mentally and physically ruined by the war and basically anyone could have beat him

                  That's the two options.

                  Also if the fight is close or Usyk gets dropped or looks anything but perfect, it's because of the war and how deeply it has effected Usyk.

                  I also want to get this in now Usyk looks like a holocaust victim and honestly this fight shouldn't be sanctioned, Usyk lives in constant, unceasing darkness as he is troubled 24/7 by images of the war, he can't sleep, can't eat, he looks terrible, Joshua has more advantages than any fighter in history over current Usyk.
                  Yeah, best to ignore reality.

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                  • REDEEMER
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Motofan

                    Yeah, best to ignore reality.
                    The reality is the forum rolls with the recent fights . Had Usyk dropped down to Cruiserweight again after the Chisora fight just about all the haters would say he didn’t belong in the heavyweight division and had A.J won the first time he gets zero credit . All of a sudden if he defeats Usyk he’s a great fighter. ? Total bonkers on here as usual when the same posters look fir other angles to discredit and contradict continuously on here .

                    Im not sure posters are capable on here putting two and two together , an A.J win bumps him up massively now all of a sudden and that means A.J himself had to be that good to defeat Usyk . Use your heads on here ,posters use different points to discredit A.J on here it never gets old .

                    In short Usyks win over A.J has really had him in best of era conversations but when A.J was dominant he was overatted ,this forum makes little sense most the time but I think most know that including you .

                    On that note I’m not sure the dismantling of the Wilder crazies on here brought in a new type of crazy to the forum with Furys fanatics ? There’s little difference between the 2 groups .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 05-19-2022, 09:04 PM.

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                      #20
                      Somebody getting KTFO.

                      Either AJ lands a home run in the early rounds, or more likely. . Usyk by late rounds demolition.

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