The Truth About P4P and Race in Boxing

[TernceBudCharlo]

Another great video by the great Bruce Vane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ptiDko2FE

[Boxing-1013]

This sh.it is so tiresome man, how do y'all make it through the day

[TernceBudCharlo]

This sh.it is so tiresome man, how do y'all make it through the day

it's a great video worth sharing

[Boxing-1013]

it's a great video worth sharing

I listened to about 30 seconds and it was all I could take.

Canelo lost to the 2nd best guy at 175 via decision.

5 years ago he was fighting at 154. He was just undisputed at 168 (some smoke and mirrors imo but still).

Crawford is one of the best as well, but to say he is clearly ahead of Canelo and should have been, just because Canelo lost to Bivol, is crazy.

It would be like saying Crawford sucks etc if he lost to Charlo at 154 or GGG/Charlo at 160.

[Godsfly]

I listened to about 30 seconds and it was all I could take.

Canelo lost to the 2nd best guy at 175 via decision.

5 years ago he was fighting at 154. He was just undisputed at 168 (some smoke and mirrors imo but still).

Crawford is one of the best as well, but to say he is clearly ahead of Canelo and should have been, just because Canelo lost to Bivol, is crazy.

It would be like saying Crawford sucks etc if he lost to Charlo at 154 or GGG/Charlo at 160.

Yea....but all pride to the side. Canelo should have never even been p4p 1........he has too many gifts inconsistences and even popped dirty lol the guy should have never been 1 over crawford. So who do u have as 1 now?

[Boxing-1013]

Yea....but all pride to the side. Canelo should have never even been p4p 1........he has too many gifts inconsistences and even popped dirty lol the guy should have never been 1 over crawford. So who do u have as 1 now?

Man I don't even know what pfp means to different people.

For me it means who are the 10 best fighters out there regardless of weight. If you can even account for something like that.

I don't watch anyone south of 130 pounds so I can't comment on those guys.

The most proven talented fighters, at their current level, for me are something like Usyk, Fury, Crawford, top 3. Then I would have an assortment of guys in the next group, who all have little asterisks imo - Canelo, Loma, Shakur, Spence, GGG, Beterbiev, Bivol, Jermell. The final crew would be guys who could be top 10 but I don't quite know enough yet - Tank, Ryan Garcia, Teo, Josh Taylor, Jermall, Andrade.

If I had to pick a number 1, it is Fury right now. To me he has been the most impressive and I think he is the best fighter on the planet. My top 3 are pretty solidly Fury, and then either Usyk or Crawford.

[Godsfly]

Man I don't even know what pfp means to different people.

For me it means who are the 10 best fighters out there regardless of weight. If you can even account for something like that.

I don't watch anyone south of 130 pounds so I can't comment on those guys.

The most proven talented fighters, at their current level, for me are something like Usyk, Fury, Crawford, top 3. Then I would have an assortment of guys in the next group, who all have little asterisks imo - Canelo, Loma, Shakur, Spence, GGG, Beterbiev, Bivol, Jermell. The final crew would be guys who could be top 10 but I don't quite know enough yet - Tank, Ryan Garcia, Teo, Josh Taylor, Jermall, Andrade.

If I had to pick a number 1, it is Fury right now. To me he has been the most impressive and I think he is the best fighter on the planet. My top 3 are pretty solidly Fury, and then either Usyk or Crawford.

And Thats all i needed to know, It proves the point........u have fury and usyk over Crawford? Historcally heavyweights aren't even in pfp. Not to mention that usyk nore fury have done anywhere near what Crawford has done cereer for cereer and pfp. You just proved everything that the ts was stating.......all I needed to know.

[TreyShaw]

Yet it's you guys who are the most racist people around.

Ask Asian hate.

[Boxing-1013]

And Thats all i needed to know, It proves the point........u have fury and usyk over Crawford? Historcally heavyweights aren't even in pfp. Not to mention that usyk nore fury have done anywhere near what Crawford has done cereer for cereer and pfp. You just proved everything that the ts was stating.......all I needed to know.

Lol I literally asked you what pfp meant to you, and then I explained what it meant to me.

Anyone butthurt that someone has Fury above Crawford is just a little bit.ch in my eyes. An honest man could have it vice versa, that's a solid opinion too, but not too many honest men around here.

Also I said Usyk/Crawford would be after Fury. I never listed either at 2/3. Anyway, cry about it, idgaf

[Dakuwaqa]

Usyk should definitely be higher then Crawford.

Winning the WBSS and then going up to HW and beat AJ for 3 of the belts is more impressive than anything Crawford has done.