Comments Thread For: Daily Bread Mailbag: Bivol Shocks Canelo, Crawford-Spence, Inoue-Donaire, More

[The D3vil]

Crawfords undisputed run looks like dog **** now. They've all lost horribly, continuously. Usyk's undisputed run is standing the test of time, as all fighters haven't lost since Usyk. Usyk is fighting in the greatest division of the sport, a division that has no weight limits. Usyk strides were Giants roam.

It's not comparable.

Yeah, and Usyk struggled in that "great division" against Chazz Witherspoon & Derek Chisora

After Chisora, folks were saying he wasn't ready for the big dogs.

[Cypocryphy]

Yeah, and Usyk struggled in that "great division" against Chazz Witherspoon & Derek Chisora

After Chisora, folks were saying he wasn't ready for the big dogs.

I wouldn't say he struggled. He just didn't perform as well as he had at Cruiserweight. Crawford struggled against Benavidez, was dropped by Mean Machine and was losing to Shawn Porter, according to many, before he stopped him.

[The D3vil]

I wouldn't say he struggled. He just didn't perform as well as he had at Cruiserweight. Crawford struggled against Benavidez, was dropped by Mean Machine and was losing to Shawn Porter, according to many, before he stopped him.

Mean Machine and Porter are better than Chazz Witherspoon & chisora.

Plus, this is Crawford's 3rd weight class.

Like I said, Porter's going to the Hall of Fame. He fought everybody and gave everybody the toughest fight of their life he almost beat Spence who is universally a top 5 P4P fighter.

No shame in having a tough fight against a guy going to Canastota in a few years.

Crawford's the only one who stopped him and retired him.

[Cypocryphy]

Mean Machine and Porter are better than Chazz Witherspoon & chisora.

Plus, this is Crawford's 3rd weight class.

Like I said, Porter's going to the Hall of Fame. He fought everybody and gave everybody the toughest fight of their life he almost beat Spence who is universally a top 5 P4P fighter.

No shame in having a tough fight against a guy going to Canastota in a few years.

Crawford's the only one who stopped him and retired him.

I'm not sure what your point is here. If you're saying that Porter and Mean Machine are his best wins, then I'll have say that Anthony Joshua is better than both of those guys combined. It's not a very good argument. You say it's his third weight class, and I saw heavy weight is not Usyk's natural weight class and that he's fighting in a weight class where there are no limits. You don't have to shrink down to a weight class. Usyk fights where giants roam.

It's a no brainer. Usyk is number one, and that's why the Ring Magazine has him there.

[The D3vil]

I'm not sure what your point is here. If you're saying that Porter and Mean Machine are his best wins, then I'll have say that Anthony Joshua is better than both of those guys combined. It's not a very good argument. You say it's his third weight class, and I saw heavy weight is not Usyk's natural weight class and that he's fighting in a weight class where there are no limits. You don't have to shrink down to a weight class. Usyk fights where giants roam.

It's a no brainer. Usyk is number one, and that's why the Ring Magazine has him there.

Porter's definitely going to the Hall of Fame.

Joshua as of now, needs another big one or two to get him there.

I don't know where you got he's wayyyyyy better than anybody after losing to Andy Ruiz and then running from him in the rematch and getting embarrassed again in his backyard by Usyk

And no, I don't think Mean Machine's his 2nd best victory, you brought Mean Machine up.

Crawford beat an undefeated Gamboa when he was on P4P lists, 5 years before Tank Davis struggled with him.

Ricky Burns, Postol, Kell Brook, and maybe even Khan were better wins than Mean Machine, as they all have better resumes.

Crawford's undefeated through 3 weight classes and has won all of his fights definitively with no controversy.

Usyk has an argument, but beating Anthony Joshua, who's already been embarrassed aint enough.

[BrometheusBob.]

Ok but why is it a "daily" bread mailbag if it's not released every day

[Cypocryphy]

Porter's definitely going to the Hall of Fame.

Joshua as of now, needs another big one or two to get him there.

I don't know where you got he's wayyyyyy better than anybody after losing to Andy Ruiz and then running from him in the rematch and getting embarrassed again in his backyard by Usyk

And no, I don't think Mean Machine's his 2nd best victory, you brought Mean Machine up.

Crawford beat an undefeated Gamboa when he was on P4P lists, 5 years before Tank Davis struggled with him.

Ricky Burns, Postol, Kell Brook, and maybe even Khan were better wins than Mean Machine, as they all have better resumes.

Crawford's undefeated through 3 weight classes and has won all of his fights definitively with no controversy.

Usyk has an argument, but beating Anthony Joshua, who's already been embarrassed aint enough.

Let me put it to you this way. Crawford is the 12th three-division champion to go from lightweight to welterweight. Usyk is the third to go from cruiserweight champion to heavyweight champion and only the second in the history of the sport to unify. I think that says it all right there.

[The D3vil]

Let me put it to you this way. Crawford is the 12th three-division champion to go from lightweight to welterweight. Usyk is the third to go from cruiserweight champion to heavyweight champion and only the second in the history of the sport to unify. I think that says it all right there.

Yeah, because they raised the Cruiserweight limit to 200lbs in recent years.

Cruisers are basically heavyweights.

Hell, Usyk won the gold medal at HW in the Olympics.

You're gonna see it happen a lot more in the upcoming years.

[Cypocryphy]

Yeah, because they raised the Cruiserweight limit to 200lbs in recent years.

Cruisers are basically heavyweights.

Hell, Usyk won the gold medal at HW in the Olympics.

You're gonna see it happen a lot more in the upcoming years.

That's true, but look at the heavyweights now compared to the 1970s? You've got Anthony Joshua, the Klitchkos, Tyson Fury. These guys are monsters. Everyone is so much bigger than Ali and Foreman were. It's an extremely dangerous division, and Usyk is so much smaller than these guys, it's ridiculous.

Anyway, I guess we'll just have to disagree. I can understand why you believe Crawford should be number one, and I think you understand why I think Usyk should be number one.

[The D3vil]

That's true, but look at the heavyweights now compared to the 1970s? You've got Anthony Joshua, the Klitchkos, Tyson Fury. These guys are monsters. Everyone is so much bigger than Ali and Foreman were. It's an extremely dangerous division, and Usyk is so much smaller than these guys, it's ridiculous.

Anyway, I guess we'll just have to disagree. I can understand why you believe Crawford should be number one, and I think you understand why I think Usyk should be number one.

Respect, brother.