Bivol was 183lbs in the ring. Stop the size excuses.

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #11
    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

    Canelo is one of the few fighters I know who refuses to disclose his ring weight.
    I know. You need to go right back to his early JMW title days to find any figures (and he was a big boy then draining right down from the low 170s). I was just wondering on basis you were making the claim that Canelo was the 'heavier man', thought you might have some info I'd missed. Based on Bivols claim that he was 183 I'd guess they were about the same, probably within a Lb or 2 of each other in the ring. Either way although I don't really hold with P4P as a concept you make a reasonable point... and besides anyone with eyes should know that size wasn't the decisive factor here, Bivol was just the better boxer with the better plan on the night.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Citizen Koba

      I know. You need to go right back to his early JMW title days to find any figures (and he was a big boy then draining right down from the low 170s). I was just wondering on basis you were making the claim that Canelo was the 'heavier man', thought you might have some info I'd missed. Based on Bivols claim that he was 183 I'd guess they were about the same, probably within a Lb or 2 of each other in the ring. Either way although I don't really hold with P4P as a concept you make a reasonable point... and besides anyone with eyes should know that size wasn't the decisive factor here, Bivol was just the better boxer with the better plan on the night.
      I see. My basis was just that I remember him being like 175 from the JMW days. And he clearly looks much much bigger now. He has to be at least 10lbs more than the 174 he was when he fought Angulo right? He looked a good 5lbs bigger when he fought Cotto a couple years later and has just blown up since then.

      But true, size really meant nothing. Bivol was the superior boxer.

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        #13
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
        We've always known Bivol is a small LHW, years ago he was talking about going down to 168.

        Beterbiev on the other hand will come in at 190-200. Stay away from that man.
        Bivol says he wants the undisputed crown at 168

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          #14
          Bivol said he was 183?

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            #15
            Originally posted by siablo14

            Bivol says he wants the undisputed crown at 168
            I'll bet he could make 168 but I don't see the point. Maybe he'd rather just take the $$ vs. Canelo and not fight Betebiev. I cat blame him, but Beterbiev is the fight we need.

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              #16
              Originally posted by LeOoze
              Bivol said he was 183?
              Yes, he says it here

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                #17
                Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

                I'll bet he could make 168 but I don't see the point. Maybe he'd rather just take the $$ vs. Canelo and not fight Betebiev. I cat blame him, but Beterbiev is the fight we need.
                The point is he gets the undisputed crown and gets the money against Canelo again.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

                  wow. I wish more boxers disclosed their fight night weights. I missed tale of the tape. I hope Bivol doesn't go down to 168...

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Toscano
                    Even bulked up he was clearly the smaller man. It's not all about the weight.

                    175 just to much for him.
                    Bivol was taller, but as always, Canelo looked larger and thicker.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo

                      I see. My basis was just that I remember him being like 175 from the JMW days. And he clearly looks much much bigger now. He has to be at least 10lbs more than the 174 he was when he fought Angulo right? He looked a good 5lbs bigger when he fought Cotto a couple years later and has just blown up since then.

                      But true, size really meant nothing. Bivol was the superior boxer.
                      Yeah, I hear ya. He won't be rehydrating as much these days - the body just can't healthily handle that kinda stress into your 30s (although you'd probably know better than me, ain't you like a personal trainer or something?) - but I can easily see him 10Lbs heavier in the ring than he was at 22 or 23 against Angulo for instance. Dudes's filled out a lot since then.

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