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  • Nash out
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    Canelo vs Bivol - Nash's view

    Firstly, Nash scored it 116-112 Bivol, giving Canelo R1,3,4,9. There was nothing in the first half of the right, though spin it however you like, should you wish.

    Some key points. Canelo is not, and never had been P4P number 1, that man, is Tyson Fury, the hardest man to beat in boxing, hence being, P4P number 1. Bivol actually raised his performance like Tyson Fury does in key fights last night.

    Canelo needs to forget 175, and talk of Usyk is laughable. His win over Kovalev, whilst still good, was a bit of a false indicator of Canelo as a top 175 fighter. Kovalev, someone who has abused his body for years and lost motivation, was on a massive decline, losing durability, and a tame, much less aggressive shadow of his former self, especially the man that beat Ward, but was robbed in the first fight.

    Canelo's power at 175 is good, but nowhere near what it is at 160 pushing 168. Canelo is not the fleetest of foot anyway, but that problem is much worse at 175, he was much slower than normal, not his head or hands, his feet. The weight is too much for him. That's the main problem when weight becomes a factor. How are your feet? Like Ruiz in the AJ rematch. He was walking through treacle.

    A rematch ends the same way. One loss to Bivol does not effect his legacy. Another bad loss the same way, may do. It's not a direction Nash would send him in, but Nash would still respect it. Canelo is not a 175 fighter.

    The Bivol that struggled past Richards in England, was nowhere to be seen. Let's put some respect on the Bivol name. Canelo should still fight Golovkin next. That's 1-1 at best anyway for him. Let's settle that score. Golovkin is still winning good fights, past his best or not.

    Canelo does not deserve to be down marked for last night. He was chasing greatness, he fell short, it happens. Viva la Mexico. Nash out.
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    Originally posted by Nash out
    Firstly, Nash scored it 116-112 Bivol, giving Canelo R1,3,4,9. There was nothing in the first half of the right, though spin it however you like, should you wish.

    Some key points. Canelo is not, and never had been P4P number 1, that man, is Tyson Fury, the hardest man to beat in boxing, hence being, P4P number 1. Bivol actually raised his performance like Tyson Fury does in key fights last night.

    Canelo needs to forget 175, and talk of Usyk is laughable. His win over Kovalev, whilst still good, was a bit of a false indicator of Canelo as a top 175 fighter. Kovalev, someone who has abused his body for years and lost motivation, was on a massive decline, losing durability, and a tame, much less aggressive shadow of his former self, especially the man that beat Ward, but was robbed in the first fight.

    Canelo's power at 175 is good, but nowhere near what it is at 160 pushing 168. Canelo is not the fleetest of foot anyway, but that problem is much worse at 175, he was much slower than normal, not his head or hands, his feet. The weight is too much for him. That's the main problem when weight becomes a factor. How are your feet? Like Ruiz in the AJ rematch. He was walking through treacle.

    A rematch ends the same way. One loss to Bivol does not effect his legacy. Another bad loss the same way, may do. It's not a direction Nash would send him in, but Nash would still respect it. Canelo is not a 175 fighter.

    The Bivol that struggled past Richards in England, was nowhere to be seen. Let's put some respect on the Bivol name. Canelo should still fight Golovkin next. That's 1-1 at best anyway for him. Let's settle that score. Golovkin is still winning good fights, past his best or not.

    Canelo does not deserve to be down marked for last night. He was chasing greatness, he fell short, it happens. Viva la Mexico. Nash out.
    Agreed. People will be clowning on him now, but if he retired before facing Bivol he still would’ve had an incredible record by contemporary standards.

    He kept on going higher and higher in weights facing the best available. If you do that you’re eventually going to lose. Canelo can still have a great career at 168, that’s where he should stay.

    I also want him to stay down there so we can get Bivol vs Beterbiev

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      #3
      Doesn’t P4P mean if boxers were the same size?

      Tyson Fury relies heavily on his height/reach/weight advantages

      A 6’9 270lb Crawford would whoop his backside

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        Dumbnelo should have stayed at 168 and become goat there. Bivol's himself offered a fight at 168 and warned him. He could beat Bivol at 168. Jump weight jump weight jump weight... TOSS UP.

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          Tyson Fury is NOT a P4P fighter. His skillset would not translate to a smaller size. Fury is a HUGE man with enough skill to make a difficult fight for anyone, shrink him down and he's barely a top 10 fighter in any other weight class.

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            Props to Canelo for taking on this guy. After the Plant fight, he def already cemented himself as a generational talent/ATG. All legends(not Mayweather, Ricardo Lopez or Marciano), lose at some point to the better man and Canelo unfortunately hit that roadblock

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              #7
              Originally posted by Silence
              Dumbnelo should have stayed at 168 and become goat there. Bivol's himself offered a fight at 168 and warned him. He could beat Bivol at 168. Jump weight jump weight jump weight... TOSS UP.
              Another ****** post from NSBs village idiot. Before this fight, you made post after post about how Canelo was gonna be the goat and now you say he’s garbage. Hypocritical much?

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