Boxing fans are emotional and slow--canelo is what we have needed

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  • jmrf4435
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    #1

    Boxing fans are emotional and slow--canelo is what we have needed

    Bivol has performed great at 175 , when he fought joe smith...you can see he knows how to avoid damage and box and move, highly skilled. He doesn't take many risks but he hits hard enough to keep guys off him, and throws mean combinations.

    when usyk beat joshua floyd said it best " that wasn't an upset, that wasn't an upset" maybe with betting bookies but usyk was an olympian who dominated his cruiserweight division.

    Same situation here--Canelo should have been the underdog at that weight, against that guy

    Hats off to Canelo--no one in boxing takes these risks anymore--the fact he didn't get stopped was amazing. Canelo it about 5'8-5'7

    Canelo is the best boxer off all time
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    #2
    Yup.

    He wasn’t exposed

    He just fought a brilliant boxer.

    I see the likes of Crawford piping up when he’s fought pretty much no one while Canelo has been fighting champs 3 x a year

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      #3
      Originally posted by Dakuwaqa
      Yup.

      He wasn’t exposed

      He just fought a brilliant boxer.

      I see the likes of Crawford piping up when he’s fought pretty much no one while Canelo has been fighting champs 3 x a year
      I cannot think less of Canelo after this loss

      it would be like shakur steveson moving up to fight crawford or sepnce after 1-2 fights at that weight, even knowing they are too small

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      • Citizen Koba
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        #4
        Indeed. The favouritism that Canelo gets from the judges is a real turn off for me, but despite that I've from gone grudging respect to admiration over the years as he's continued to face top opponents in higher weighclasses time after time when he could easily have milked it at 160 and 168 and still earned much the same $$$s.

        Never did get why folk saw Bivol as anything other than a real serious threat and Canelo gets big props from me for merely facing him at all - win or lose.

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        • hhh1200
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          #5
          The man has been beaten 4 times but because of fanboys, and nationalistic BS we are supposed to pretend he didn't fight a negative fight against GGG One and compubox had Lara winning 7-3-2 with 113-24 headshots landed vs the same basic bodywork he had against bivol. This guy is far from the best fighter of this generation just because his Mexican base will shell out 300-800k PPVs so that allows him to rig cards, excuse from hot tests, fight at his own weights, hydration clauses, etc. same trash we had to listen too when fmw was cherry-picking his way around 147 with his bad hands and hold on to the 154 belts for 2 years with contenders like Lara and Andrade in the wings. Hatman used to make videos all the time about fanboys and invincible fighters.

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #6
            Stop with damage control. Bivol was seen as a big underdog in the eyes of casuals and odds. Mexican -American promotional agenda made you believe Bivol would be an easy work.

            We more acknowledged boxing fans that kept telling you Bivol would be a very hard fight for Canelo, were very rare on boxing cites..
            Last edited by JakeTheBoxer; 05-08-2022, 05:25 AM.

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            • jmrf4435
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              #7
              Originally posted by hhh1200
              The man has been beaten 4 times but because of fanboys, and nationalistic BS we are supposed to pretend he didn't fight a negative fight against GGG One and compubox had Lara winning 7-3-2 with 113-24 headshots landed vs the same basic bodywork he had against bivol. This guy is far from the best fighter of this generation just because his Mexican base will shell out 300-800k PPVs so that allows him to rig cards, excuse from hot tests, fight at his own weights, hydration clauses, etc. same trash we had to listen too when fmw was cherry-picking his way around 147 with his bad hands and hold on to the 154 belts for 2 years with contenders like Lara and Andrade in the wings. Hatman used to make videos all the time about fanboys and invincible fighters.
              I thought the lara and GGG fights could have gone either way

              I thought ggg-canelo 2 canelo clearly won--landed better shots and combinations and made GGG look slow at times

              Lara never did any work that impressed me or hurt canelo, canelo controlled the ring and lara ran having success at distance

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              • Boxing fan1981
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                #8
                The loss is on Reynoso, putting him in there. A 5’7” middleweight, scrapping with a damn light heavyweight.

                Canelo has no business being in there with a light heavyweight….yet there he is trying anyway…love the guy.

                Canelo was just too small, no power, no weight. Like a freshman in high school fighting against a senior.

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                • jmrf4435
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Boxing fan1981
                  The loss is on Reynoso, putting him in there. A 5’7” middleweight, scrapping with a damn light heavyweight.

                  Canelo has no business being in there with a light heavyweight….yet there he is trying anyway…love the guy.

                  Canelo was just too small, no power, no weight. Like a freshman in high school fighting against a senior.
                  Nah, not at all

                  i respect the chase for greatness

                  the fact he can make men at that weight think twice, hold power and go 12 competitive rounds is something we have never seen. And stop some in that division..

                  hats off to reynoso for achieving that with Canelo

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                  • jmrf4435
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    Stop with damage control. Bivol was seen as a big underdog in the eyes of casuals and odds. Mexican -American promotional agenda made you believe Bivol would be an easy work.

                    We more acknowledged boxing fans that kept telling you Bivol would be a very hard fight for Canelo, were very rare on boxing cites..
                    I picked Bivol

                    You are missing the point..

                    no active boxers and many boxers from the past would even take a fight like this...

                    Canelo IS boxing right now--he is holding the sport above water

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