Can Bivol win a decision?

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  • LeOoze
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    #31
    Originally posted by denium
    Absolutely not. Bivol could win 12 rounds and they would still declare it a draw.

    It's one of the reasons i don't have a huge amount of interest in watching a Canelo fight, unless someone can knock him out, they aint winning a decision under any circumstances.
    How many rounds do you think Bivol will win tomorrow? 8?

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    • kushking
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      #32
      Originally posted by Smash

      Im afraid i dont agree with those cards, ggg and kov won more rounds so won the fights clearly imo, sturm got robbed in a high profile fight there too vs de la hoya, its just great for a siders in big fights, they do really well there, now im not saying this doesnt happen elsewhere it does but vegas is definitely a place where officials know what to do in big fights
      Ggg absolutely did NOT win more than 6 rds 1st Canelo fight clearly,Kov maybe won by 1-2 pts 1st Ward fight due to kd,but I have analyzed compubox & rd by rd & no way g won 7 rds clearly

      just because a guy you thought edged it didn't win doesn't make it a robbery,& in vegas its far more rare to see 1 sided cards than anywhere else,if that wasn't the case you'd have tons of examples instead of just few close fights that went the other way

      Charlo v Korobov,he somehow won almost every rd,Taylor v Postol he somehow won every rd, these are the norm outside vegas,as a whole vegas judges are just better than everywhere else(thats the opinion of most trainers)
      Last edited by kushking; 05-06-2022, 03:53 PM.

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      • Smash
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        #33
        Originally posted by kushking

        Ggg absolutely did NOT win more than 6 rds 1st Canelo fight,Kov maybe won by 1-2 pts 1st Ward fight due to kd,but I have analyzed compubox & rd by rd & no way g won 7 rds clearly
        LMAO compubox is no sub for eyes but considering u mentioned it, golovkin outlanded nelo in 10 out of12 rounds with one round even in fight 1 & and by a lot in a lot of those rounds, so nelo only outlanded ggg in one round by compubox and u are making this argument LMAO, bad one to make, it was a clear win for ggg, sorry

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        • HrNY
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          #34
          Originally posted by Oracle01
          Will have to be Floyd level domination probably lol
          and even that was still a draw card for canelo lol

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          • tonysoprano
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            #35
            Originally posted by Dakuwaqa

            Bivol isn’t a light-hitting LHW. Benavidez was interviewed yesterday praising Bivols power

            GGG isn’t a big MW either
            Benavidez chats ****. Bivol couldn't stop Craig Richards.

            His 'power' isn't going to do jack to Canelo.

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            • kushking
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              #36
              Originally posted by Smash

              LMAO compubox is no sub for eyes but considering u mentioned it, golovkin outlanded nelo in 10 out of12 rounds with one round even in fight 1 & and by a lot in a lot of those rounds, so nelo only outlanded ggg in one round by compubox and u are making this argument LMAO, bad one to make, it was a clear win for ggg, sorry
              Ggg got outlanded in power shots in many rds,he also was mainly landing jabs/ arm punches & glancing blows,he was getting lit up with combos & every single punch in Canelos arsenal cleanly as can be,& his face looked destroyed. (44-8 in bodyshots, devastating bodyshots Canelo landed(44 powerbody)

              Ggg went from being a devastating body puncher,power Puncher/ko artist to a headhunter jabber w no body work

              Notice I mentioned that I cross-referenced the fight to compubox,it was because what truly matters is who lands CLEAN effective aggression in the most rds,& ggg didn't do that for 7 rds,only 1 judge had g by 1 rd up,& 2 of the 3 had scored prior fights for ggg)

              Ggg is the last fighter who can complain about judges.

              He got to pick the only judge who saw him win in the rematch

              Last edited by kushking; 05-06-2022, 08:28 PM.

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              • Satir
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                #37
                People talking about Bivol lacking power should understand first the way he fights, "his" style; he (and his trainer) represents typical, even classical soviet "playing style" school of boxing, he's playing with his opponent, feinting, provoking, light on his feet with constant pendulum step, in and out and precise counter punching, his shoulders, forearms are relaxed and punches mostly come from his elbows turning the wrists in the end, he doesnt use those huge left hooks like Canelo who needs to set up his feet first and then turn his hole body

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                • MaksBox
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Satir
                  People talking about Bivol lacking power should understand first the way he fights, "his" style; he (and his trainer) represents typical, even classical soviet "playing style" school of boxing, he's playing with his opponent, feinting, provoking, light on his feet with constant pendulum step, in and out and precise counter punching, his shoulders, forearms are relaxed and punches mostly come from his elbows turning the wrists in the end, he doesnt use those huge left hooks like Canelo who needs to set up his feet first and then turn his hole body
                  Precisely. Bivol's style is not about going for the 1 punch KO. Watch his interviews. He is there to box, and IF the opportunity for a KO comes, he takes it.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by kushking

                    1st off 1 bad judge has nothing to do with whether vegas has bad judges,do you realize that those same judges judge everywhere else besides vegas,& even when sidelined in vegas they went elsewhere?

                    The 1st ggg fight ended completely fairly unless you are biased,the 1st Ward fight ended fairly even if you think Kov edged it,it was far from a clear win.

                    Thats my point,in vegas the judges are selected based on whether they have been submitting fair cards(do you really need a list of the countless fights outside vegas where countless fighters win every rd in a close fight or fight they clearly lost?)

                    In Vegas as Skip Duran says"best judges in the business" because they select the judges with longest track records/most experience, whereas outside vegas you have 2 or 3 every card the likes of Larry Hazzard jr

                    I'm saying if you want to demonstrate how fixed vegas is list fights where 2 of the 3 robbed the other fighter,not 1



                    You nuthug often ?

                    Just asking

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                    • Smash
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by kushking

                      Ggg got outlanded in power shots in many rds,he also was mainly landing jabs/ arm punches & glancing blows,he was getting lit up with combos & every single punch in Canelos arsenal cleanly as can be,& his face looked destroyed. (44-8 in bodyshots, devastating bodyshots Canelo landed(44 powerbody)
                      Im talking about ggg nelo 1, not 2!!!! powershots were about equal in that fight with ggg landing far more jabs and his jab is a good weapon, there wasnt a mark on gggs face after fight 1, that was fight 2, which was a very good close fight, both guys were great imo

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