Pacman already top 10 ATG!! win or loss

[PACHUGGER]

Pacman got nothing to prove. He is already in the top 10 ATG

www.pacman-vs-cotto.com

Pac is god!

[BennyST]

I already have him at top 5 P4P. I got him at top 10 after he finished DLH. Dominating Hatton & Koing him with one Punch takes him at top 5. He'll be the Greatest OAT when He finish Cotto, PBF, Mosley & JMM.

Oh Jesus.......

I think that anyone with some knowledge of the actual whole history of boxing would probably rate him somewhere around the 30-50 mark at the moment. The Cotto fight will take it up to 20-40 mark if he can win and the Mayweather fight would bring it up to a top 20 fighter. He simply doesn't have enough great fighters that are huge accomplishments on his resume to make him anything more than that.

Until he fights someone that is bigger, younger, faster and better skilled, which all the top ten ATG's did, and on numerous occasions, then he can't make that big leap. Fighting good fighters that are the same size, less skilled, slower, older, are made for your style etc etc doesn't really get you up there in terms of true greatness and the only guy that is a real proper test for him would be Mayweather. That's still only one fighter though and to get to a top ten place in the entire history of the sport you've got to do more than beat an old Oscar, a ****e Hatton and some other very good fighters that retired straight after he beat them after long, already overdue careers.

To get to that incredible spot of top ten/twenty you've got to face some serious adversity and incredible odds and overcome them. To this date he hasn't faced that type of thing at all. So, no he will not make the top ten, or maybe even twenty but we'll wait and see how he does with Cotto. Another fighter he is not really smaller than, or slower, or older and another fight in which he is the big favourite to win by KO.

Amazing career already to date but no way could it confused for a top five, ten or even twenty yet.

[Blue Heffner]

Hell Nah. Pacquiao fans show they're getting delusional by the second.

[The_Demon]

Oh Jesus.......

I think that anyone with some knowledge of the actual whole history of boxing would probably rate him somewhere around the 30-50 mark at the moment. The Cotto fight will take it up to 20-40 mark if he can win and the Mayweather fight would bring it up to a top 20 fighter. He simply doesn't have enough great fighters that are huge accomplishments on his resume to make him anything more than that.

Until he fights someone that is bigger, younger, faster and better skilled, which all the top ten ATG's did, and on numerous occasions, then he can't make that big leap. Fighting good fighters that are the same size, less skilled, slower, older, are made for your style etc etc doesn't really get you up there in terms of true greatness and the only guy that is a real proper test for him would be Mayweather. That's still only one fighter though and to get to a top ten place in the entire history of the sport you've got to do more than beat an old Oscar, a ****e Hatton and some other very good fighters that retired straight after he beat them after long, already overdue careers.

To get to that incredible spot of top ten/twenty you've got to face some serious adversity and incredible odds and overcome them. To this date he hasn't faced that type of thing at all. So, no he will not make the top ten, or maybe even twenty but we'll wait and see how he does with Cotto. Another fighter he is not really smaller than, or slower, or older and another fight in which he is the big favourite to win by KO.

Amazing career already to date but no way could it confused for a top five, ten or even twenty yet.

apart from the hatton part
spot on as always benny

[TGA]

Oh Jesus.......

I think that anyone with some knowledge of the actual whole history of boxing would probably rate him somewhere around the 30-50 mark at the moment. The Cotto fight will take it up to 20-40 mark if he can win and the Mayweather fight would bring it up to a top 20 fighter. He simply doesn't have enough great fighters that are huge accomplishments on his resume to make him anything more than that.

Until he fights someone that is bigger, younger, faster and better skilled, which all the top ten ATG's did, and on numerous occasions, then he can't make that big leap. Fighting good fighters that are the same size, less skilled, slower, older, are made for your style etc etc doesn't really get you up there in terms of true greatness and the only guy that is a real proper test for him would be Mayweather. That's still only one fighter though and to get to a top ten place in the entire history of the sport you've got to do more than beat an old Oscar, a ****e Hatton and some other very good fighters that retired straight after he beat them after long, already overdue careers.

To get to that incredible spot of top ten/twenty you've got to face some serious adversity and incredible odds and overcome them. To this date he hasn't faced that type of thing at all. So, no he will not make the top ten, or maybe even twenty but we'll wait and see how he does with Cotto. Another fighter he is not really smaller than, or slower, or older and another fight in which he is the big favourite to win by KO.

Amazing career already to date but no way could it confused for a top five, ten or even twenty yet.

BLAH BLAH BLAH!! you clearly hate PACQUIAO to rate him at 30-50!
wow! you should read what you wrote!! It is really funny!!and s!

[PowerpuG]

i win over cotto and pbf puts him in the 20's range..maybe lower end teens (18, 19).. he'll never break top 10.. just not enough great competition for him to do so

[Elotero]

BLAH BLAH BLAH!! you clearly hate PACQUIAO to rate him at 30-50!
wow! you should read what you wrote!! It is really funny!!and s!

30 - 50 is generous. Boxing has been around a long time. To be even in the top 100 you must be legendary. Im not even sure Pac cracks that list but all hate aside i do believe he is close.

You are waaaay overrating your fantasy boyfriend.

[Pacdbest]

Oh Jesus.......

I think that anyone with some knowledge of the actual whole history of boxing would probably rate him somewhere around the 30-50 mark at the moment. The Cotto fight will take it up to 20-40 mark if he can win and the Mayweather fight would bring it up to a top 20 fighter. He simply doesn't have enough great fighters that are huge accomplishments on his resume to make him anything more than that.

Until he fights someone that is bigger, younger, faster and better skilled, which all the top ten ATG's did, and on numerous occasions, then he can't make that big leap. Fighting good fighters that are the same size, less skilled, slower, older, are made for your style etc etc doesn't really get you up there in terms of true greatness and the only guy that is a real proper test for him would be Mayweather. That's still only one fighter though and to get to a top ten place in the entire history of the sport you've got to do more than beat an old Oscar, a ****e Hatton and some other very good fighters that retired straight after he beat them after long, already overdue careers.

To get to that incredible spot of top ten/twenty you've got to face some serious adversity and incredible odds and overcome them. To this date he hasn't faced that type of thing at all. So, no he will not make the top ten, or maybe even twenty but we'll wait and see how he does with Cotto. Another fighter he is not really smaller than, or slower, or older and another fight in which he is the big favourite to win by KO.

Amazing career already to date but no way could it confused for a top five, ten or even twenty yet.

I have debated this about 2 years ago at ESB. When He KO Morales, I already have him at top 20. When he Finally beat JMM I equalled his accomplishment to SRL with trifecta against HOF Fighters. Then I ask ESB what Pac needs to beat to make top 10. They Mention names like Juan Diaz, Casa, Hatton, PBF & DLH. Well Pac Ko already hatton & DLH. Pac victim JMM KO Diaz & Casa. There's only PBF Left. But Now Pac is taking Cotto which I never imagine he will go for. Watch out.... Pac will make look easy with Cotto. And JMm might take out PBF but I hope not because I want Pac to take PBF Zero.


Here's my quote from 08 2007:

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08-24-2007, 08:18 AM #21
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Re: Would Pac be an ATG if retires after....
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Only time can tell. How many people thought that Duran is an ATG after SRL-Duran 2 debacle? None. Yet look at where he is ranked now. Many are putting him ahead of SRL. History has a habit of looking things in a different perspective. I am sure that ODLH will be considered an ATG despite always failing to win when the opposition is grade A.

Maybe, years after Mp retires, his victories over MAB, EM, and probably JMM (a draw courtesy of the idiotic judge) would be given more credit than what many pundits gives him today when the three mexicans will be in the HOF.
That's true. If DLH & Leonard will be there on the top 25s Then Pac defenitely belongs in their league. Maybe higher once he achieve to win those mentioned Titles from 130-135. The WOW KO factor of every Pac wins also Counts more than DLH & SRL close & Favorable DEsicion wins against Elite fighters. years After Pac retires & we reminice How Greats He is & How we miss his fights, You guys will look it differently from now.

[Яша]

lol @ ******ed philipino pac nuthuggers

[Pacdbest]

Here even my Hated Rival KG0208 said pac will be top 10. Just don't ask him again today coz I know he has many excuses. You can find him at myboxing forum. He already banned me there coz I keep reminding him of how I owned him.


09-11-2007, 05:19 PM #36
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Re: Pac is top-10 P4P on ATG list period!
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Originally Posted by kg0208
Trust me, if Pacman unified 130, then beat Casamayor and Diaz at 135, then beat PBF at 140 (If PBF came down) or Hatton if he beats PBF, he would be top 10 IMO and probably most people's.

But I think it's impossible to do all of that.
Now you're getting my Drift KG. You just think it's impossible. Not me, I believe Pac can do it. You know why?? Because Pac's is Blowing the competition right now at 130. He's improving everyfight & just entering his Prime. Floyd's Prime is Probably at 130 where he's dominating & Knocking most of his opponent. Since then he's struggled with Castillo at 135. Pick his opponent at 140-147 & he's not impressive lately. Floyd's on the way down while Pac's entering his Prime. Pac carry's his Power & Speed and learning new skills, Floyd left his Power at 130 all he has now are speed & Skills. The time this fight could be made, Floyd also will be entering Father time & probably lose some of his Speed. Pac is a rare Breed that comes once in every 50 years. When was the last? time we have something like him??