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  • Apollo7
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    #71
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

    Wilder is still very dangerous and he knocks out the most of other guys.
    Well he needs to hurry up and do it then.

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    • bullydean
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      #72
      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07

      I don't disagree here. The point is that they are the other top ranked active heavyweights, and frankly, the fact that they're so highly ranked just goes to show how weak the heavyweight division is in this era. So for Fury not to have fought any of them just further demonstrates how weak his resume is, and how little he deserves to be mentioned as an ATG or HOF fighter. My point was that he HAS to talk up Wilder because he basically hasn't fought anyone else.

      I personally think the talk about Usyk being too small is rubbish. He's bigger than Mike Tyson, for instance. Anyone want to say that Tyson is too small to have any power? Muhammad Ali, maybe? Gotta have a little perspective here.

      And anything you want to say about who Fury would beat is nothing but speculation, because he hasn't proven it in the ring.
      The whole "Usyk is too small" thing isn't something I believe in personally considering his footwork and technique is amazing but if Fury just manhandles him then it would seem like Usyk doesn't belong.
      Of course this is speculation.

      As for the resume. You said it yourself they're pretty bad. Fury fighting them adds nothing to his resume. Everyone agrees Fury would probably demolish those fighters.
      People thought Whyte had a shot and look what happened. Fury has no reason to stick around after Usyk/AJ if he does wait for unification.
      Like you said it's speculation that Fury would beat them but it's speculation based on evidence. There's nothing these other boxers offer that makes them a viable or notable opponent besides being highly ranked and because of that he would just be padding his record instead of actually gaining legacy.

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      • bullydean
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        #73
        Originally posted by jackkeane6

        Really don’t understand why people seem to think Usyk gives a **** about the ‘war’
        why wouldn't he? The guy lost 20 pounds and said he doesn't want to kill anyone. A couple people mentioned how he wasn't even holding his weapon correctly.
        The man is scared and humble. He knows he can't kill and doesn't want to see the destruction caused by Russia.

        Yes it is a war. There's no need for quotations you dunce.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Earl-Hickey

          Did you see lennox Lewis constantly talking up how amazing Holyfield was after beating him?

          It's very strange, I think part of it is for some weird reason fury can't handle that Wilder just doesn't like him.
          He didn't say he was amazing he said he's the second best guy in the division I think he's just saying that to hype the fact that he battered him so he's the Numero uno if wilders still the second best. I don't think he really cares about wilder that much it's just a thing to strengthen his own wins against him more than anything by saying he's the number 2 guy and look what I did to him. And wilder will probably get the shot at the wbc title if fury vacates and wilder comes back he's still number 1 in the Rankings
          Last edited by Boxing2695; 04-25-2022, 07:59 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by bullydean

            The whole "Usyk is too small" thing isn't something I believe in personally considering his footwork and technique is amazing but if Fury just manhandles him then it would seem like Usyk doesn't belong.
            Of course this is speculation.

            As for the resume. You said it yourself they're pretty bad. Fury fighting them adds nothing to his resume. Everyone agrees Fury would probably demolish those fighters.
            People thought Whyte had a shot and look what happened. Fury has no reason to stick around after Usyk/AJ if he does wait for unification.
            Like you said it's speculation that Fury would beat them but it's speculation based on evidence. There's nothing these other boxers offer that makes them a viable or notable opponent besides being highly ranked and because of that he would just be padding his record instead of actually gaining legacy.
            And workrate. Usyk gets hit a lot, plenty of impressive defense but he's kind of aggressively defensive which causes him to get hit. So I think that's why there's such a focus on size. The other side of that coin is it's totally possible Usyk makes Fury do too much work to keep up with him. Just like it's impossible to weight less and put more weight on the other guy, it's also impossible to weight more and output as much energy. That's why HWs suck wind so quickly. Work rate is their worst enemy and Usyk's best asset.

            IMO, he either gets himself hurt or he tires Fury out. I don't think it's a decision fight.

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            • jackkeane6
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              #76
              Originally posted by bullydean

              why wouldn't he? The guy lost 20 pounds and said he doesn't want to kill anyone. A couple people mentioned how he wasn't even holding his weapon correctly.
              The man is scared and humble. He knows he can't kill and doesn't want to see the destruction caused by Russia.

              Yes it is a war. There's no need for quotations you dunce.
              Because there is **** all going on there lol. Glad to see Klitschko enjoyed watching the boxing on Saturday night whilst ‘defending his country and fighting on the front lines in a war zone’

              regardless, Usyk is from Crimea, so one could strongly assume that he is supporting Russia.

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                #77
                Guess what? Wilder doesn't have to fight again financially. Guess what? With his special needs daughter and the country life that he loves why should he have to get up at 4 in the morning and train all freaking day when he doesn't need to. Guess what? He has nothing left to prove to anybody especially fans that don't know anything about boxing just MMA and that Paul Logan Logan Paul whatever guy. If he fights again it's a gift to the boxing world not something he has to do. I love that it's that way.

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                • dmos1128
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by jackkeane6

                  Because there is **** all going on there lol. Glad to see Klitschko enjoyed watching the boxing on Saturday night whilst ‘defending his country and fighting on the front lines in a war zone’

                  regardless, Usyk is from Crimea, so one could strongly assume that he is supporting Russia.
                  Huh? Wrong site for all that and has nothing to do with the topic at hand. And why would you even assume that? Wow smfh

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #79
                    I cant have Wilder no2 on basis of losing 3 times to fury. If either Josh or Usyk fought Fury 3 times, theyd both have at least 1 win over fury imo.
                    fury can't say wilder no2 without giving usyk/Josh chance to prove otherwise
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 04-26-2022, 06:42 PM.

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                    • bullydean
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by jackkeane6

                      Because there is **** all going on there lol. Glad to see Klitschko enjoyed watching the boxing on Saturday night whilst ‘defending his country and fighting on the front lines in a war zone’

                      regardless, Usyk is from Crimea, so one could strongly assume that he is supporting Russia.
                      That doesn't even make sense

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