Comments Thread For: Charlo: No Intention of Fighting Spence, But Crawford Can Get That Work

[Apollo7]

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You are literally trying to distort facts. These are the guys Crawford fought at 147

1. Jeff Horn - (wins WBO belt)
2. Jose Benavidez
3. Amir Khan
4. Kavaliauskas
5. Kell Brook
6. Shawn Porter

Kell Brook was undefeated when Spence beat him, in the UK no less.
Spence beat Porter in a FOTY fight.
Both Brook and Porter are Spence’s left overs. Brook was pretty much washed up when Crawford beat him.
You are left with Khan, Benavidez and Kavaliauskas as your argument … what exactly have they done at 147? Especially Khan. What kind of argument are you making?

Brook was undefeated? Or was he weight drained after coming back down in weight after GGG stopped him and broke his face?

Spence fought an even fight with Porter.

Ugas is a solid win. Apart from that you've got guys like the Garcia's who haven't done much at 147.

like I said, his resume gets a bit overstated. Outside of the guys Crawford beat more impressively, it's not that amazing.

[JakeTheBoxer]

100% agreement! Bud passes the "eye test" just like Boots Ennis, but his resume at 147 is not much better than Boots, if at all! Spence has proven his worth, Bud and Boots have work to do! At this point, I almost rather see Spence and Boots go at it, but I know that can happen @ 154, so i'd rather Crawford first, and for Boots to fight the winner!

I don`t know what are you talking about, Spence and Crawford have the same best win, Porter.

[cruz1383]

I agree that Crawford resume at 147 lacks substance but I’ll also say that Porter is a better fighter at welterweight than most other fighters are in their weight classes. For example I think he’s a better welterweight than anyone Taylor unified against at 140, than anyone charlo unified against at 154, than anyone charlo or Andrade or ggg beat for their belts at 160, than anyone canelo unified with at 168, or beterbiev unified with at lhw.

your right porter is better then a lot of fighters at WW and other weights but that was Crawford's tale end fight with Top Rank to which they didn't care if he lost at that point so they actually made the fight. At the end of the day Spence had already beat porter in his prime before Crawford and beat all other WW in there prime which Crawford hasnt even got in the ring with due to him being with a crap promo company for that weight division.

what people don't see is that promo companies are not one size fit all. Each division has a promo company that has a lions share of fighters at WW that promo company is Al Hamon period and when you have a company that wants the lions share of the purse all the time (top rank) and all they have is that one fighter then they don't get fights just like pacman he didn't get a lot of fights OUTSIDE of in house top rank fights or fights with other fighters from lesser promo company up until he finally left pacman was a lot luckier due to the fact that top rank had a good share of fighters at that time.

[Bronx2245]

I agree that Crawford resume at 147 lacks substance but I’ll also say that Porter is a better fighter at welterweight than most other fighters are in their weight classes. For example I think he’s a better welterweight than anyone Taylor unified against at 140, than anyone charlo unified against at 154, than anyone charlo or Andrade or ggg beat for their belts at 160, than anyone canelo unified with at 168, or beterbiev unified with at lhw.

I like Porter, but I would put him the same box as Tony Harrison, Danny Jacobs, Derevyanchenko, and BJ Saunders! Good, but not great! His losses to Brook, Thurman, and his performance vs. Ugas, took him off the pedestal for me!

[rrayvez]

I like Porter, but I would put him the same box as Tony Harrison, Danny Jacobs, Derevyanchenko, and BJ Saunders! Good, but not great! His losses to Brook, Thurman, and his performance vs. Ugas, took him off the pedestal for me!

he’s better than all of those guys and it’s really not even very close. He faced elite fighters consistently unlike those other guys you mentioned, only lost to elite fighters, and only Crawford has a convincing win over him despite the fight being close until the stoppage. He arguably could’ve gotten the decision against all those guys that you say took him off your pedestal.

[Bronx2245]

I think people overstate Spence's resume a bit compared to Crawford. It's better but nothing special imo. He has ugas on there now which is a solid win. Apart from that it's just people who Crawford has beaten more impressively or people who haven't done much at 147.

Crawford has been in the game a long time, and I think his best wins are Gamboa, Postol, and Porter! Not impressed! Even his resume at 140 is nothing to brag about! I think Danny Garcia's wins over Khan and Matthysee are better! Crawford really needed that Pacquiao fight in 2015! For Crawford to get to where he should be, based on his talent (Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Canelo), he needs to beat Spence at 147, and Charlo or Castano @ 154!

[Bronx2245]

I don`t know what are you talking about, Spence and Crawford have the same best win, Porter.

Spence beat Porter, and Brook in his prime, and in his house! Ugas is the icing on the cake! Other than Porter, Danny Garcia is better than anyone Crawford fought...EVER!

[Oregonian]

Brook was undefeated? Or was he weight drained after coming back down in weight after GGG stopped him and broke his face?

Spence fought an even fight with Porter.

Ugas is a solid win. Apart from that you've got guys like the Garcia's who haven't done much at 147.

like I said, his resume gets a bit overstated. Outside of the guys Crawford beat more impressively, it's not that amazing.

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What’s the argument here? I don’t want to split hairs over our differing perspective.
Based on their body of work and boxing style, do you think Crawford beats Spence or Vice versa?
It all boils down to that at this point.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Kell Brook was undefeated when Spence beat him, in the UK no less.

No he wasn`t lol.

GGG destroyed Brook for good.

[SUBZER0ED]

Some contradiction coming from Charlo. First, he's not interested in fighting his stablemate Spence, but if that money is right, he will.