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  • MOTHER DUCKER
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    #11
    Erm what about Castillo?


    JM is not a pressure fighter anyway tbh.

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    • Stickman
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      #12
      Originally posted by snootz86
      Erm what about Castillo?


      JM is not a pressure fighter anyway tbh.

      Lost the first fight, whatever the judges say, and was better prepared in the second fight and took the decision. And while that was a decent test, Castillo didn't get Mayweather to throw as much as I'd like to see if I were to consider it a true test of endurance and conditioning. He coasted for several rounds, late, and didn't start throwing much until the last 3. If he'd thrown for every round, then I'd consider it an actual test.

      And no, JMM isn't a pressure fighter, said as much myself initially.
      Last edited by Stickman; 09-16-2009, 10:37 AM.

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        #13
        floyd needs to KO jmm. anything less would be a disappointment.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Stickman
          Floyd has never been in the ring against a pressure fighter for 12 rounds of high activity. He's fought pressure fighters, but those fights never went late, and he always managed to keep out of big trouble. He's quick, slick, and very difficult to put leather on.

          And I'm not saying he'll crumble late, either, just that I think he'll be easier for JMM to put leather on after 6, and while I'm sure Floyd is in good shape, JMM will be in even better shape, and will have a slight advantage late because of it. Will there be an upset? Unlikely (otherwise it wouldn't be much of an upset), but if it happens, it'll be late.

          And before you go calling someone who's been watching boxing longer than you've been alive ignorant, maybe you ought to consider your own ignorance.

          If you disagree, try saying so, and why, rather than being insulting. This isn't a kindergarden playground, and you don't have to be a ****head when you're trying to make your point. I can understand it just as well when you're congenial as when you're being ******.
          castillo twice, and the hatton fight went to into the 10th just to name a couple

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            #15
            Styles makes....

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              #16
              floyd wins by decision

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              • Stickman
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                #17
                Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                castillo twice, and the hatton fight went to into the 10th just to name a couple
                Already mentioned the Castillo fights, and Hatton's aggression and pressure wasn't that effective.

                And I'm not saying he's never been tested at all, just nothing that would make me think he'd have any sort of advantage over JMM after the 6th. And while I don't think JMM is much of a pressure fighter, he has been much more aggressive the last couple of years and could mean trouble for Floyd late.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Stickman
                  Already mentioned the Castillo fights, and Hatton's aggression and pressure wasn't that effective.

                  And I'm not saying he's never been tested at all, just nothing that would make me think he'd have any sort of advantage over JMM after the 6th. And while I don't think JMM is much of a pressure fighter, he has been much more aggressive the last couple of years and could mean trouble for Floyd late.
                  if this fight goes past the 6th then JMM is definitly in trouble. floyd has never had stamina problems and he tends to come on stronger in the mid to late rounds. JMM is the one with the extra weight and muscle never fighting above 135, if anyone has stamina issues in this fight it will be JMM

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                    if this fight goes past the 6th then JMM is definitly in trouble. floyd has never had stamina problems and he tends to come on stronger in the mid to late rounds. JMM is the one with the extra weight and muscle never fighting above 135, if anyone has stamina issues in this fight it will be JMM
                    Yeah, I've thought about that, too, but JMM trains like a madman, I just don't see him having stamina problems no matter what weight he comes in at.

                    Again, I don't look for JMM to come out a winner here, but if he does, it'll be by KO in the championship rounds. He can't win a decision against Mayweather, and could end up getting stopped early.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Shadow boxer 3
                      if this fight goes past the 6th then JMM is definitly in trouble.
                      it don't matter what round it is, jmm is in trouble regardless.

                      floyd has never had stamina problems and he tends to come on stronger in the mid to late rounds.
                      yep WW is floyd's weight division. LW is jmm's weight division.

                      JMM is the one with the extra weight and muscle never fighting above 135, if anyone has stamina issues in this fight it will be JMM
                      yep. we don't know what the extra weight will do to jmm

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