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  • #41
    I was against the Iraq war because it was about oil, it was always about oil...oil and trillions in no bid contracts to fan friendly campaign contributors. News Corp, Fox, Sky and it's subsidiaries wrapped the war in the flag and sold it. Unwilling to allow themselves to be out American-ed, the "so called" left leaning media gave full support. Justification moved from the ridiculous notion connecting Iraq with 9/11 to WMD's and atrocities committed decades earlier. Justification moved quickly from talk point to the next manufactured talk point labeling dissenting opinions as anti American.

    It's 2022 and it's Ground hogs day in Russia.

    ***** is on the attack blending his brand of shock and awe with ****, torture and mass civilian murders on a whole sale level. The one constant....News Corp, Fox, Sky and their subsidiaries all in support of Koch Industry and it's oil interests. Make no mistake, this war is NOT about bio weapons, WMDs or liberating the people it's about oil and the American perto dollar as the global reserve currency. Koch Industry is contracted to build refineries and pipelines through what will soon be a parking lot. In the end, Vladimir ***** doesn't give a shyt about the Ukraine, he, just like Saddam Hussein, intends to pump oil into Europe in exchange for Russian Rupals...period. The real play is ending the American dollar as a global currency. If you think inflation is bad now, imagine the dollar losing 300% in a day.

    And THAT my friends...is the game within the game.

    Crawford is right, try to support and pray for the people of the Ukraine.
    Last edited by factsarenice; 04-07-2022, 10:03 AM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
      I was against the Iraq war because it was about oil, it was always about oil...oil and trillions in no bid contracts to fan friendly campaign contributors. News Corp, Fox, Sky and it's subsidiaries wrapped the war in the flag and sold it. Unwilling to allow themselves to be out American-ed, the "so called" left leaning media gave full support. Justification moved from the ridiculous notion connecting Iraq with 9/11 to WMD's and atrocities committed decades earlier. Justification moved quickly from talk point to the next manufactured talk point labeling dissenting opinions as anti American.

      It's 2022 and it's Ground hogs day in Russia.

      ***** is on the attack blending his brand of shock and awe with ****, torture and mass civilian murders on a whole sale level. The one constant....News Corp, Fox, Sky and their subsidiaries all in support of Koch Industry and it's oil interests. Make no mistake, this war is NOT about bio weapons, WMDs or liberating the people it's about oil and the American perto dollar as the global reserve currency. Koch Industry is contracted to build refineries and pipelines through what will soon be a parking lot. In the end, Vladimir ***** doesn't give a shyt about the Ukraine, he, just like Saddam Hussein, intends to pump oil into Europe in exchange for Russian Rupals...period. The real play is ending the American dollar as a global currency. If you think inflation is bad now, imagine the dollar losing 300% in a day.

      And THAT my friends...is the game within the game.

      Crawford is right, try to support and pray for the people of the Ukraine.
      I dont believe it's anywhere near as simple as that although some of your points are valid. Yes all the sanctions are playing into russia/china's hands as they are now building essentially competition to swift. But ***** does give a **** about ukraine and its all about natural minerals. 85% of the world's neon comes from Ukraine and is essential in all micro chips for phones laptops among many other things.
      you can't compare ***** with saddam. Hussain sat in power like gaddafi due to his alliance with America. ***** controls the police state that is russia they are incomparable. This is simply the start of russia/china/India and the Eastern alliance challenging Western civilisation

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      • #43
        Originally posted by alexjust View Post

        What assault by US, UK, France and etc. didn't even make news in modern times?
        It may make the news but its not viewed as an invasion. America has invaded over 70 countries since the end of world war 2. Mostly for the private gain of a small few through arms and oil contracts. Just look at Vietnam, I still hear Americans talk about it as a war but tell me why did America invade in the first place and why did it last so long?? The longer it lasts the more these people make money. America and the cia are the true world *********s imunder no illusions life is better under American rule than Chinese but let's call a spade a space America creates war all over the world for nothing but profit. Its disgusting

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

          Well, it can only be the fine details you don't agree with because what is happening is without a doubt happening, what befuddles me is whatever you think is behind Russias reasoning that it justifies the actions, one doesn't nuke an old people's village because a nest of hornets sits in the basement. War cannot be hidden today its closed-circuit telecast live action, front row seats, how can you justify any of it to the people of Ukraine.
          I really don't like your tone there bud. You are being bias against Russia's legitimate security claims. I'm not going to sit here and explain to you what those are. All I'm saying is that they both have legitimate arguments and since neither of them are in the wrong, and no diplomatic solution could be reached, let them fight it out because obviously it's the only way they're going to settle it.

          My point was that athletes shouldn't be cancelled. There's no need to target sports figures. Terence Crawford is exercising his freedom of speech. I may not agree with what he's saying but I respect his opinion just as I did when the Russian gymnast wore the letter Z on his suit.
          I am totally against Cancel Culture. It's getting way out of hand and everyone seems to be turning into a bunch of Snowflakes
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          • #45
            Unfortunately there is a lot of anger, resentment, and hate in the comments that are posted on this platform, especially on this subject.
            I understand that depending where you were born, and one's ancestry has a lot to do with how we see the world, and how it affects us.
            At some point in time one particular race has invaded another's home land, and committed atrocities/war crimes that are the mark of the devil.
            Almost all of the races whom have inhabited this world, (with the exceptions of some very few pacifist) are guilty of the same inhumanity.
            That said the question is when do we learn from history, and stop all of this evil carnage against one another no less, we all belong to the human race.
            The day that we can stop labeling ourselves, and others that's the day that we will finally realize that in helping one another out, we help ourselves.
            There are other wars although much smaller in scale taking place around the world right now, and they aren't even being reported.
            The invasion of Ukraine is virtually an all out war between two large countries, that in only over a month the death toll, the destruction of cities,
            and refugee crises 2.3 million is astounding.
            Those who have the mind set that it happened before, so it's Karma, or just the nature of things, then you haven't learned from life's great teacher of lesson's.
            That lesson being that those who don't learn from the past, are doomed to repeat it, it's one thing to talk tough, act tough, and even fight.
            It's another to lose your home, family, your limbs, sanity, all that you hold near, and dear to your heart, that's when most people are left broken in the aftermath of war.
            So right now I salute Ukraine's heroic stance against Russia, they are defending their home, and loved one's, I would expect everyone to do the same, if they were in their shoe's.
            Their courage is nothing short of amazing, considering the onslaught that's been brought to bear against them, their land, home's, and loved one's.
            United we stand, and divided we fall, if the brilliant minds of the world, and the worlds workforce don't come together to fix this mess, we will cease to exist as race, the human race that is, at some point in time.
            I agree with Terrance Crawford on this one, he's a hell of a fighter in his own right.
            Last edited by Boricua181; 04-07-2022, 11:54 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Loque-san View Post
              Stick to boxing Terence.



              Also I don't think there has ever been a war without war crimes or massacres happening; the US and France could tell you about it as they have mastered this discipline.

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              France? U do realise that one of the biggest opponents of the iraq war was france, to the point that french fries were renamed freedom fries in america in response to their opposition, do u not remember that?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Ry92 View Post
                Focus on boxing nato has impunity genociding committing warcrimes blowing up schools hospitals talking bout they stashed weapons there. I guess its ok to destroy people of color with no sanctions. Hope the russia ukrain conflict ends soon. Yet the west showed there colors. Not bout sanctioning russia unless you want to add them to yourselves for iraq ( war made up over lies) libya n more
                i dont see ukraine threatening its neighbours like iraq did, starting wars, invading countries themselves, not saying thats an excuse for invading them, which is always wrong, but ukraine wants a better life for its people, not a dumping ground for russians with no future whatsoever

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Smash View Post

                  i dont see ukraine threatening its neighbours like iraq did, starting wars, invading countries themselves, not saying thats an excuse for invading them, which is always wrong, but ukraine wants a better life for its people, not a dumping ground for russians with no future whatsoever
                  You my friend have no idea about ukraine. A large portion of Eastern Ukraine is predominantly Russian settlers its only the Western part that consider themselves European. And Iraq was invading countries with American backing let's not forget. You do realise Hussain was in power with American backing. Same as gaddafi in Libya?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Smash View Post

                    France? U do realise that one of the biggest opponents of the iraq war was france, to the point that french fries were renamed freedom fries in america in response to their opposition, do u not remember that?
                    And u do realise France have committed awful atrocities like genocide in Rwanda in the 90's among other places. Ohh but I suppose they changed the name of French fries so it's all good lol

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by allen23 View Post

                      You my friend have no idea about ukraine.
                      oh and u do do u?

                      the vast majority of ukrainians want to join the eu and be the new poland, with prosperity and a good future, they dont want to be a vassel state of russia, as for the 2 eastern areas that have a lot of russian speakers, thats a territorial dispute between countries & not an excuse for invading and killing thousands & displacing millions, there is no guarantee whatsover that even those 2 areas would vote to join russia anyway, as far as i can see, even russian speakers are taking up arms against this invasion

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