Pacquiao Denies Steroid Use, Roach Blasts Floyd

[DrewWoodside]

floyd mayweather jr. is on roids as well.

there's rumors about it floating around.

i started it.

Yup, I think Floyd is on steroids. Also, a friend of mine thinks he might be on roids. We now have copious information and swirling speculation.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Then that crackpipe has a lot of mileage on it. The rumours and spec have been going on for awhile, and are pretty widespread.

Ask iceman.

for a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?

it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?

i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them

[Al Haymon]

What exactly is this copious data?

Some of the data points are:

1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
Etc...

less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".

[DuttyAlacrity]

LOL, they are already building up the hype for Pac-Floyd

If that's the ulterior motive then this makes sense
other than that, Sr.'s allegations didn't warrant a response

[WhoreUs]

for a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?

it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?

i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them

when floyd mayweather jr. moves up divisions it's because he's so good.

when pacquiao moves up divisions it must be because of roids.

get it? good.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

when floyd mayweather jr. moves up divisions it's because he's so good.

when pacquiao moves up divisions it must be because of roids.

get it? good.

i'm tellin you, he shoulda just stayed at 135 and forced everyone to come down there

[WhoreUs]

Some of the data points are:

1. Other Roach trained fighters/athletes have tested positive for steroids
2. Pac's obvious size increases while maintaining exceedingly lean muscle mass
3. A culture of steroid use around the Wild Card gym
Etc...

less credible and specific has been "have you noticed down disproportionately large Pac's head is?" and "overseas athletes are more prone to PED use because the culture is more permissive".

dude , pac's had a big head since he was a kid. look up some of his fights.

overseas culture is more permissive of steroids? true. american athletes rarely test positive for steroids.

[WhoreUs]

i'm tellin you, he shoulda just stayed at 135 and forced everyone to come down there

pacquiao is on the same stuff all our olympic gold medalist athletes are on.

[Al Haymon]

for a while? since when? 2008? one year? when he moved up to fight DLH?

it never occured to you guys that he might have actually found 140 as the weight that his body is finally comfortable in? maybe he WAS draining to make 130?

i dunno, everyone's entitled to their opinions...even if some allow a crackhead to form it for them

Mak,

No. calm down. You are acting like I said the guy does roids. I said that i have heard those rumours for awhile. Jeff M said that among the boxing community, there has been a lot of chatter.

This is not the only board that I frequent, and I had seen this discussion before.

Yeah, maybe it has been a year or so. But he wasn't really in the public consciousness before. right? But there was a Pacquiao steroids thread on nsb that is over 2 years old.

If a guy is hitting 33 home runs a year and he is on the juice, he can fly under the radar. as soon as he hits 60, the questions will arise. That's how it works. Success draws scrutiny.

http://board.rapmusic.com/audio-emcee-hook-ups/1155335-headline-manny-pacquiao-tests-positive-steroids-loaded-gloves.html

You know what entertains me? That so few are saying "well, let's objectively examine the issue". Instead people fall to " he is an ugly crackhead. He looks like the Predator". That's mature.

[Eaner0919]

he just weighed in at a higher weight , bud.

pacquiao's last few fights at 130 he was coming in the ring around 140-145.

look it up.

hell even little jmm would come in at 140 plus at 130.

oh I know sir

but I counter that with

if it's indeed all water weight like you think then why does he look very similar in all his weigh in pics? look it up as you say.

12 more lbs in 9 months is all hydrating or not cutting?

I have a hard time believing that sir. Not to say I believe Manny is indeed taking PEDs but for anyone to solely dismiss this as Sr's rantings when other people whose opinions I respect and trust have expressed the same questions is being a bit naive