That is the only time I can recall Joppy doing something like that however.
I would have to say DLH has some heart and he certainly did not show it against Tito..
At least Joppy hung in there when the going got tough.
Oscar De La Hoya stopped fighting for the glory a looooooong time ago. He's all about the money..
Besides...I can't think of too many fights where he had to show heart and determination to win (don't count losses)....He showed heart against Quartey..
Oscar De La Hoya stopped fighting for the glory a looooooong time ago. He's all about the money..
Besides...I can't think of too many fights where he had to show heart and determination to win (don't count losses)....He showed heart against Quartey..
True about DLH, but I would like to say though.
He showed heart against Vargas to some extent.
As far as Joppy.
Joppy is far from finished as a prizefighter. Whoever he fights next, if he does; had better not underestimate him. More than likely it would be against someone like Sturm or abraham. Both of which I think he can beat.
I overlook that. He knows what he can and cannot take and if he had to quit he had to quit. I know Hopkins fought with a dislocated shoulder and other guys have fought with a bunch of fractures and ****...but if your shoulder/arm is so ****ed that you think you've had enough then go ahead. I mean, why would he quit otherwise? He was destroying Byrd and knew all he had to do is jab him to death and stay away. He wouldn't quit unless he couldn't go anymore IMO.
I overlook that. He knows what he can and cannot take and if he had to quit he had to quit. I know Hopkins fought with a dislocated shoulder and other guys have fought with a bunch of fractures and ****...but if your shoulder/arm is so ****ed that you think you've had enough then go ahead. I mean, why would he quit otherwise? He was destroying Byrd and knew all he had to do is jab him to death and stay away. He wouldn't quit unless he couldn't go anymore IMO.
Yeah, but the thing what really makes the quitting look bad is that he told Larry Merchant he thought Byrd was winning the fight at the time he quit. Some people can see that as, "Well, I'm losing anyway, no need to get my career ended over of this lost cause, the guy is just too quick and elusive."
Yeah, but the thing what really makes the quitting look bad is that he told Larry Merchant he thought Byrd was winning the fight at the time he quit. Some people can see that as, "Well, I'm losing anyway, no need to get my career ended over of this lost cause, the guy is just too quick and elusive."
I didn't know the part about telling Drunken Merchant that he thought he was losing. The only aspect of the whole thing that I questioned before was why he'd quit on a guy like Byrd. Byrd is slick and all but he ain't gonna end his career with his punching power or anything. Just move and shoot the jab once and awhile...ah **** I dont know.
I suck specific lists because they take me forever, so five guys I think have a lot of heart are:
Mosley (that forrest 1 fight alone gets him on there)
Vargas
holyfield (still refusing to retire, might be ******ity more than heart)
pacquiao
mayorga
i agree with holyfield, more than just ******ity, i think it's suicide
the other four:
marquez, that mother___ deserves some credit
trinidad, alot of times knocked down but still wins, except vs BH
gatti, time and time again never ceases to impress me
of course manny pacquiao, i'm kinda being bias here
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