Evander Holyfield ranks higher than Lennox Lewis at HW

[QueensburyRules]

There is no argument mate. It is a Top 5-8 win. That version of Mike Tyson was underrated. He was not out of condition, and was still capable. If that version of Mike Tyson was transported to present day, heavyweights would all be on edge.

Mike Tyson only really dramatically fell off in form, in the 2000's. Sometimes he was in good condition, other times he was in terrible condition.

Of course Mike Tyson was not at his peak after prison, but listen? The statistics are all there. Mike Tyson was 222 pounds vs Holyfield, he was in decent enough condition.

He clearly trained for the fight, put in a solid effort but was beaten.

The condition of both Tyson & Holyfield for the rematch was immense. For as long as that fight lasted, those fighters were moving like Middle-Weights. If that fight would of been allowed to continue, I think it would of been one of the greatest heavyweight fights of all-time.

So for me, there is no debate on how great Holyfield's win over Tyson is. I will no longer discuss anything on his matter 'Because there is no argument'.

- - Mike post prison record is 9-5, 8 KO wif 4 KO losses and 2 NCs in between yet another prison stint.

What grade U in?

[Mitchell Kane]

There is no argument mate. It is a Top 5-8 win. That version of Mike Tyson was underrated. He was not out of condition, and was still capable. If that version of Mike Tyson was transported to present day, heavyweights would all be on edge.

Mike Tyson only really dramatically fell off in form, in the 2000's. Sometimes he was in good condition, other times he was in terrible condition.

Of course Mike Tyson was not at his peak after prison, but listen? The statistics are all there. Mike Tyson was 222 pounds vs Holyfield, he was in decent enough condition.

He clearly trained for the fight, put in a solid effort but was beaten.

The condition of both Tyson & Holyfield for the rematch was immense. For as long as that fight lasted, those fighters were moving like Middle-Weights. If that fight would of been allowed to continue, I think it would of been one of the greatest heavyweight fights of all-time.

So for me, there is no debate on how great Holyfield's win over Tyson is. I will no longer discuss anything on his matter 'Because there is no argument'.

Wrong.

Tyson never re-established himself as an all-time great after prison.

People want to give Holyfield the benefit of calling him “washed” in 1999 cuz he had a bad showing against Vaughn Bean the year prior … even tho it was Holyfield who priced himself out of a ‘98 fight with Lewis, when he was coming off wins over Tyson and Moorer.

But somehow Tyson still represents an all-time great win in ‘96, years after his prime, the Douglas loss and prison time.

[Fangedgrowl]

Bowe had a better argument for winning the 2nd Holyfield fight than Holyfield had in either of the 2 Lewis fights.

okay, Holyfield bveat bowes ass the seci=ond fight clown,