Comments Thread For: Spence-Ugas Pay-Per-View Undercard: Cruz-Gamboa, Valenzuela-Vargas, Crowley-Lopez

[GhostofDempsey]

you miss the point Bro - pbc needs the Hispanic fanbase for a successful ppv. Majority of Floyd’s ppv opponents were Hispanic - some didn’t even deserve a title shot - Marquez, Ortiz, Guerrero. Floyd just needed a Hispanic in the opposite corner to draw the huge Hispanic fanbase. Look at all of Tanks ppv fights - all b-level Hispanic fighters and a past it old version of Lsc. And what a shock - B-level Rolly Romero up next! No coincidence there Bro. Its the Pbc formula. HWS draw on their own. And it’s obvious why May/Mosley is at the bottom of that list - something missing opposite Floyd.

He also needed Hispanics who fought to his style. Floyd is more of a counterpuncher. He prefers offensive fighters who are going to come forward.

[Chollo Vista]

What a night of fights!!

Awesome card by Showtime

[Amir Imam]

you miss the point Bro - pbc needs the Hispanic fanbase for a successful ppv. Majority of Floyd’s ppv opponents were Hispanic - some didn’t even deserve a title shot - Marquez, Ortiz, Guerrero. Floyd just needed a Hispanic in the opposite corner to draw the huge Hispanic fanbase. Look at all of Tanks ppv fights - all b-level Hispanic fighters and a past it old version of Lsc. And what a shock - B-level Rolly Romero up next! No coincidence there Bro. Its the Pbc formula. HWS draw on their own. And it’s obvious why May/Mosley is at the bottom of that list - something missing opposite Floyd.

I didn’t miss the point. It’s funny how you all are with the word play. You all say Mexicans run boxing but at the same time you will say such and such needs Hispanics to sell. Rolly is from Cuba Guerrero and Ortiz are American. Using the term “Hispanic Fanbase” is such a broad term and I’d argue all top fighters have a “Hispanic Fanbase”. Floyd has the top 2 PPVs neither involved an Hispanic And it’s obvious why Canelo- Mosley nor Canelo-Cotto (Two Hispanics) didn’t even make the list at all. The latter couldn’t even crack 1M PPV buys.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

I didn’t miss the point. It’s funny how you all are with the word play. You all say Mexicans run boxing but at the same time you will say such and such needs Hispanics to sell. Rolly is from Cuba Guerrero and Ortiz are American. Using the term “Hispanic Fanbase” is such a broad term and I’d argue all top fighters have a “Hispanic Fanbase”. Floyd has the top 2 PPVs neither involved an Hispanic And it’s obvious why Canelo- Mosley nor Canelo-Cotto (Two Hispanics) didn’t even make the list at all. The latter couldn’t even crack 1M PPV buys.

Never said “Mexicans run boxing” And OBVIOUSLY Floyd has the top 2 ppv bc Pac and Conner were in the opposite corners. Every boxing fan in the world(die-hard and casual) was dying to see that fight w/Pac and of course Conner was the most famous Mma fighter at that time and obviously had a huge fanbase. Guerrero and Ortiz are American but identify with and draw the Hispanic fanbase...lets not over state the obvious. And Fyi - Rolly is AMERICAN.

[KTFOKING]

Rayo vs Vargas isn't going to be a war bro....it's going to be a massacre. Sucks watching Vargas being fed to the wolves at this stage of his career and the effects all those wars have taken on him,big fan of his. It should be Rayo vs Cruz and Gamboa vs Vargas. Pretty **** undercard...

Vargas didn't look bad against Cruz. Rayo is unproven and isn't one to move much so for as long as it lasts, it will be a good one.

[Cinci Champ]

Never said “Mexicans run boxing” And OBVIOUSLY Floyd has the top 2 ppv bc Pac and Conner were in the opposite corners. Every boxing fan in the world(die-hard and casual) was dying to see that fight w/Pac and of course Conner was the most famous Mma fighter at that time and obviously had a huge fanbase. Guerrero and Ortiz are American but identify with and draw the Hispanic fanbase...lets not over state the obvious. And Fyi - Rolly is AMERICAN.

People can say a lot things about Floyd some warranted but I never understood people who try to downplay his ability to sell ppv.

[Sctrojan]

Vargas didn't look bad against Cruz. Rayo is unproven and isn't one to move much so for as long as it lasts, it will be a good one.

He held his own against Cruz I agree,mainly because Cruz is a pretty crude brawler with a good chin. El Rayo has shown to be far more skilled than Cruz and will blast out Vargas a la Berchelt. Valenzuela and Frank Martin are tremendous talents and it's going to show that night.

[DJrabit]

How the hell does Vargas & Gamboa get on the ppv card…PBC always matching young boxers with old fighters coming of loses. I think that is how Davis won a championship fighting Cuellar .

[KTFOKING]

He held his own against Cruz I agree,mainly because Cruz is a pretty crude brawler with a good chin. El Rayo has shown to be far more skilled than Cruz and will blast out Vargas a la Berchelt. Valenzuela and Frank Martin are tremendous talents and it's going to show that night.

Certainly possible, but who has Rayo beaten? Last fight or the fight prior he got touched up some. Not saying Vargas will win because I don't expect that to happen. I just think it will be entertaining for as long as it lasts.

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Yet majority of the PPV stars and most famous/richest boxer are American. If Hispanics were what you are claiming they’d all be fighting in Mexico but they don’t they have to come to America for them paydays.

Three Hispanics on this entire list and both needed America to be successful.

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The list is nothing but Tyson and Gayweather though. Stop acting like there are 20 blacks on that list.

And it's the other way around, Gayweather needed De la Hoya, Canelo, Pac, and McGregor to be successful. He needed De la Hoya to breakout. How was he doing before DLH? How many PPV buys did he get vs Baldomir?

How are the PBC PPVs doing? How did the Stank PPV go? How about Thurman?

Want to place a bet on which will do better, the Spence PPV or Canelo PPV?