Is Crawford in the same class as Mayweather, Leonard, Duran or more in the Class of Oscar, Mosley...

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  • Sheldon312
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    #61
    Originally posted by LarryX....
    hell naw, gots lots more work to do, more on a tim Bradley level
    Bradley would've lost to Thurman, Spence, Ugas, Ennis, Ortiz Jr, Porter, Crawford, and Kell Brook (prime).

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      #62
      Originally posted by Brother Mouzone
      He is not anywhere near the class of any of the fighters you mentioned
      Nostalgic much???

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        #63
        Originally posted by Sheldon312
        I've been watching Crawford for years now and I am always on the fence with him. There are days when I feel as though he is overrated but then there a days I feel he is greater than many fighters we have seen. Would you say, Crawford, as a boxer, is in the same class as Manny, Floyd, Leonard, and Duran? Or is he just another Oscar, Mosley, Pernelle, Tito, Vernon....etc
        Crawford is nowhere near as great as Floyd, SRL, Duran, Pacquiao or Sweet Pea. The guy beat nobody worth a damn to even be compared. His best win is B class Postol, blown up and inactive Gamboa or ready to retire Shawn Porter. The greats before actually fought tough opponents. They didn't cherry pick bums and faded former champs 95% of their career like Crawford. At their best I would pick every guy you listed to beat Crawford. A lot of them would knock him out.

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          #64
          Originally posted by War Room

          I consider all of the fighters you mentioned A Level fights. Once you get to the A Level, there are subdivisions and Craawford is much lower than the others. I hope this answers your question.
          Much lower? There isn't a huge disparity between Crawford, Mosley, Tito, Manny, and Pernell

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            #65
            Originally posted by Sheldon312

            Brook, Khan, Porter would've been titleholders in the 2000s and 90s
            You are smoking some crack for sure...

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              #66
              Originally posted by Sheldon312

              He is better than Mayorga, wouldn't you agreed
              I think prime Mayorga could knock Crawford out

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                #67
                Originally posted by mathed
                Crawford is going to analyze him early on, make adjustments, and proceed to pick Spence to pieces. Spence thrives on the inside, what happens when he can't get inside and eats shots every time he tries to get in? Bud by clear decision, but I think if Spence gets sloppy late, Bud could easily stop him.
                Mmmmmm..... I don't think it's that straight forward. Spence is head and shoulders above everyone Crawford has fought. Spence has the better Jab, an Inside fighting game, and he is stellar at cutting off the ring, plus he has tremendous boxing IQ. We can compare how both did against Porter but I felt Ugas handled Porter better than everyone and look at what Spence did to Ugas. It's no as cut and dry as you're making it out to be.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Sheldon312

                  Much lower? There isn't a huge disparity between Crawford, Mosley, Tito, Manny, and Pernell
                  I think there is a mountain of difference. Young Mosely was a phenom against top top cats. Sweet Pea is a legit ATG. Crawford could never dig deep like Tito did against David Reid. Cut from totally different clothes.

                  Even though Manny had a big cherry-picked career he beat big time names. Crawford best win was Porter and he was almost losing. What do you think Tito would have done to Porter? TKO 3.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Sheldon312

                    Oscar never fought anyone with he mix of skill and aggression that Porter brings.
                    Oscar would've stopped Shawn Porter. And Shawn Porter is not that skilled. He's a bum rushing face 1st brawler that smothers his own work.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sheldon312

                      Oscar never fought anyone with he mix of skill and aggression that Porter brings.
                      I get it mate, you are a Porter fan. He is the american version of Derek Chisora, but slightly more sophisticated.

                      Fernardo Vargas was aggressive and way more skillful than Shawn Porter, he also hit with more power.

                      Shawn Porter is not a elite level fighter mate.

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