Comments Thread For: Photos: Canelo Alvarez, Dmitry Bivol - Face To Face in San Diego

[Idunnoshet]

"Revolution of dignity" is the name given to the event - i didnt make it up.
Propaganda in terms of what people voted for is not what they got - as is the case in many elections. The candidate was a corrupt Russian puppet and lied to get elected at a time when there was great unhappiness about the eocnomic situaiton aftter the global financial crisis. He then tried to push the country towards Russia subjugation. Ukrainians did not put up with his lies or actions, which is what caused the 'revolution'.
The US elections were not suspect. Perhaps you dont like the result and some of the electoral rules are admittedly ridiculous, but that doesnt mean they are suspect any more than any election is. What Trump and his entourage say does not change this in any way.
Russia's power has declined massively from the Cold War era, this is indisputable. to compare, Africa has lots of commodities but that doesnt mean anything on its own in terms of geopolitical power. Supply of commodities does give Russia some leverage, as does its aggressive approach to geopolitics, and its alignment with China against the US, but even China is turning against it now, so lets see where its at in 12 months.
Nordstream 2 was cancelled one day after Russia invaded, so obv not that big an influence even if it was well publicised.
The Ukrainians wanted to move towards the EU - I have several Ukrainian and other Eastern European friends who have told me this explicitly first hand. Russia helped their puppet leader get elected to try and stop this, so after the Ukrainians turfed him out, they obviously had the West's support. I agree that the West's actions might not have gone down well with Russia, but they definitely do not warrant the total destruction of the country that is happening now. You must at least agree with me on this?
Yes, many people arent happy with *****, Macron or Johnson, but these leaders arent trying to hand over political and economic control of their countries to foerign dictators. If they were, the same thing would happen to them as happened to Yanukovych. You cant compare any of those elected leaders in long-established developed democracies to *****, a dictator who has been in power for decades and changes the laws and narrative of his country at will.
Assad used chemical weapons against his own people. He asked the Russians for assistance because he knew NATO would do to him what happened to another horrific, murderous dictator who looted his country continuously, Gadaffi. NATO would not go up against Russia, which is how Assad managed to avoid getting himself killed. It was his only way out. This also happ[ened to be advantageous for ***** in expanding his sphere of influence.
Chechnya #1 general command a battalion because the chechen govt is a Russian installed puppet govt.

I dont get my information from the BBC, geopolitics is my job. I'm not taking a biased view either and I agree that its not always we are good and they are bad. Im also not dis*****g the US role in Ukraine, as you mentioned, or that people in East Ukraine speak Russian.

I do dispute the crimea referendum results - you would never get 97% of a vote like that in one direction, especially in favour of a foreign dictator taking over. I also dispute your view on ***** - he is bad (if you believe in personal and sovereign liberty) and he has proved it again and again through his actions - it isnt the West that have made him this way with their meddling, as you originally suggested - it is a function of his formation as a KGB Soviet strongman.

Sorry . But I stopped reading after you claimed the 2020 U.S elections weren't Suspect.
Maybe not suspect according to the bbc. But here in the U.S more than half the population ( which is probably more than the whole of the U.K ) strongly suspect the election was rigged.

[SUBZER0ED]

Bivol looks serious as hell, almost angry. Canelo has a look of uncertainty. I think cinnamon's run up the weight scale stops here with a decisive defeat.

[Hnnnggg]

Sorry . But I stopped reading after you claimed the 2020 U.S elections weren't Suspect.
Maybe not suspect according to the bbc. But here in the U.S more than half the population ( which is probably more than the whole of the U.K ) strongly suspect the election was rigged.

Only Trump fanatics believe the election was rigged. Thought it was hilarious that currently where I’m living, Maricopa county, there was a group called the Cyber Ninjas looking for bamboo fibers in ballots. That’s how ludicrous the witch-hunt is for nonexistent evidence of a corrupt election. People just wanted a change in leadership, nothing more to it. Waste of taxpayer money especially considering that infrastructure in Phoenix can barely support the influx of out of state transplants

[buddyr]

It should be cancelled. Bivol's taxes will go to Russia to support war. No russian should make money on American soil

where do our taxes go? And what for? take your time to answer. .Don't rush, I'm patient,

[Boxing Goat]

I based my opinion on Factual events you can easily search up.

Your opinion that " Russia is killing innocent civilians " is generally vague.

I haven't read / heard reports of civilians being purposely targeted.
If they were I'd imagine the international community would be condemning Russia for War crimes. Which would then give NATO a excuse to step in.

So far. Just sanctions.

It's not vague at all. There's a civilian body count and many, many pics and videos out there of it.

This shouldn't be happening at all and for you to low key defend it is reckless and pathetic.

Thinking like that is why it's happening in the first place and should be condemned altogether.

But it's okay, Russia falls again due to this, watch and see. ***** will end up dead or in prison for crimes against humanity.

[SUBZER0ED]

Sorry . But I stopped reading after you claimed the 2020 U.S elections weren't Suspect.
Maybe not suspect according to the bbc. But here in the U.S more than half the population ( which is probably more than the whole of the U.K ) strongly suspect the election was rigged.

Yeah, that's complete bullshit.

[jas]

no way they give a russian a decision in usa with whats going on now right?

[Apollo7]

Bivol looks serious as hell, almost angry. Canelo has a look of uncertainty. I think cinnamon's run up the weight scale stops here with a decisive defeat.

Yeah I noticed that too. Very real possibility this backfires on Canelo.

[Idunnoshet]

It's not vague at all. There's a civilian body count and many, many pics and videos out there of it.

This shouldn't be happening at all and for you to low key defend it is reckless and pathetic.

Thinking like that is why it's happening in the first place and should be condemned altogether.

But it's okay, Russia falls again due to this, watch and see. ***** will end up dead or in prison for crimes against humanity.

I'm not defending anything.
You're the pathetic one that has nothing but insults.

What point are you making ?

***** falls again ?
Who gives a shet about ***** ?
This is an international situation not something personal against *****.

[Idunnoshet]

Yeah, that's complete bullshit.

I was off by a little.
But " complete bullshet ". Nope.

I'm not good at embedding links.
But I'm looking at a article from The Guardian titled " More than 40% in US do not believe ***** legitimately won election - poll ".
Dated June 5th 2022.

The Guardian's mainstream enough right ?

Don't be lazy. Come at me with something.
Not just funny face emojis and a smart ass remark.