Boxing scoring leads to confusion and room for corruption

[-Kev-]

You give a guy 9 points for losing a round, 8 points in a round he gets knocked down, that’s a recipe for disaster and lots of room for corruption.

Even getting battered from pillar to post in a round? You still can get 9 points.

Change scoring to 1 point for the winner, 0 for the loser. 1 additional point additional KD’s. The loser of the round scores a KD? k, give him a point for that.

If I (as I am right now, not a pro etc) step in the ring vs GGG, survive round 1 with no KD’s because I ran for my life, I get 9 points. What kind of BS is that?

Boxing orgs need to push for a more simple scoring system. This is r/tarded.

[Babadoux]

I hadn't thought about it but I agree with you.

[GrandpaBernard]

10 points to the winner of the round sounds impressive

[-Kev-]

10 points to the winner of the round sounds impressive

And 9 points for the loser.

A total loser. A guy gets beat up, he gets 9 points.

Imagine a team scores a touch down, 6 points. Oh, but wait the defending team gets 5 points. Close game! No robbery here!

Or a pitcher gives up a grand slam. Damn! That’s 4 quick runs in. How can the other team come back from that? No biggie, other team was awarded 3 runs just for playing.

Let’s change the channel to ESPN, some basketball game is on. Oh he shoots, he scores! 3 pointer, wow. Also, 2 points for the defending team. Close game now!

That’s boxing.

You lose a round, get slaughtered, get knocked down once, but survive. The person who just beat you up gets 10 points, but no worries, you are still in it, you got 8 points for that whooping you just sustained.

It’s r/tarded and allows for the ****** scores everyone complains about. Too much room for bad scores when you can give a loser 9 points and the winner 10 points. That is quite possibly the most r/tarded scoring system of all sports.

[GrandpaBernard]

And 9 points for the loser.

A total loser. A guy gets beat up, he gets 9 points.

Imagine a team scores a touch down, 6 points. Oh, but wait the defending team gets 5 points. Close game! No robbery here!

Or a pitcher gives up a grand slam. Damn! That’s 4 quick runs in. How can the other team come back from that? No biggie, other team was awarded 3 runs just for playing.

Let’s change the channel to ESPN, some basketball game is on. Oh he shoots, he scores! 3 pointer, wow. Also, 2 points for the defending team. Close game now!

That’s boxing.

You lose a round, get slaughtered, get knocked down once, but survive. The person who just beat you up gets 10 points, but no worries, you are still in it, you got 8 points for that whooping you just sustained.

It’s r/tarded and allows for the ****** scores everyone complains about. Too much room for bad scores when you can give a loser 9 points and the winner 10 points. That is quite possibly the most r/tarded scoring system of all sports.

as if boxing was intentionally designed to NOT be user friendly

idk what the rationale was

does saying 116-112 make it easier to sell a rematch

vs 8-4. It easy to see the winner did twice as good as his opponent

[Dosser]

You give a guy 9 points for losing a round, 8 points in a round he gets knocked down, that’s a recipe for disaster and lots of room for corruption.

You get 1 point for a knockdown and a score of 10-8 if you win the round. If you lose the round but get a knockdown you don't get a 10-8, it's a 10-9.

[LeOoze]

Nah I disagree. I like how a fight is determined based off per rounds.

[Boxing-1013]

To me the issue is that an honest judge needs to more or less split the close rounds in a fight. An average 12 round title fight might have 5-7 'close' rounds. If you try and justify one guy getting all of those, then basically you could have either guy winning a fight when there is only really one winner.

Look at Kov-Ward 1. Kov won 5 or so clear rounds. The rest were pretty competitive. Ward won 0 clear rounds really. In that scenario, no one should ever give Ward more than 4 rounds - max would be 5 - absolute max. Even 4 feels charitable for him there.

Close but clear rounds do exist - Lara, Floyd, and Billie Joe Saunders are 3 guys who come to mind for me as far as being able to just do enough in a string of rounds to win them close but clear.

But most fights have quite a few rounds that are too close to call. You either have to basically split them, or give 10-10 rounds. Only way around it.

[BodyBagz]

Great POV

Even worse, a guy can get battered for 2;40 and miraculously score a knockdown. Making it a 9-8 or 9-9 or 10-8 rd in his favor ?

Every sport has a chart on what qualifies as a point

NBA ADDS a 3pt award for hitting certain shots
MLB ADDS pts with HRs and men on base
NFL distinguishes TDs from FGs and scores them accordingly
Boxing deducts pts instead of awarding them with knockdowns.

Scoring in boxing (HA!) is mostly guesswork. If there is a science or a standard system, it has yet to show itself.
Still, the judges somehow seem to get it right ''most of the time''

[-Kev-]

Great POV

Even worse, a guy can get battered for 2;40 and miraculously score a knockdown. Making it a 9-8 or 9-9 or 10-8 rd in his favor ?

Every sport has a chart on what qualifies as a point

NBA ADDS a 3pt award for hitting certain shots
MLB ADDS pts with HRs and men on base
NFL distinguishes TDs from FGs and scores them accordingly
Boxing deducts pts instead of awarding them with knockdowns.

Scoring in boxing (HA!) is mostly guesswork. If there is a science or a standard system, it has yet to show itself.
Still, the judges somehow seem to get it right ''most of the time''

It’s opinionated. Basically a boxer can dominate a round, and a judge, if its his opinion (or corruption), can give it to the guy who seemingly lost.

Boxing fights are like, imagine an NFL team outpoints another team 21 to 7. But the decision on who won has to go to 3 judges, and the 3 judges give the decision to the team that scored 7 points. Just cause. Maybe home-field advantage. That’s how boxing is.

The winner isn’t the winner unless the judges say so. In boxing you can win AND lose at the same time.

I don’t know how their hasn’t been a complete overhaul of this extremely controversial scoring system.

Every time after a fight goes the distance, fans and announcers discuss the high possibility of judges getting it wrong. Because it happens so frequently. It’s sad as hell. A guy works his ass off in the gym, seemingly wins, but gets awarded a Loss. After a sporting event is over, there is a definitive winner. There’s no discussion on “who really won”. There’s a definite winner. Not in boxing/combat sports.