Ryan Garcia and Vergil Ortiz have done a trainer downgrade

[GelfSara]

They are both people who you don’t like?

I like Alex quite a bit. I don't know Eddy or Chepo.

[GelfSara]

They both worked with the best boxers of their time?

Not what I was thinking of, although Brandon Ríos definitely belongs on boxing's Mount Rushmore.

[just the facts]

- - TBE TUE 51-0 wouldn't fight Manny until he hired Ariza to tell him the bum shoulder to target.

Dumb, even for you

[ShoulderRoll]

Not what I was thinking of, although Brandon Ríos definitely belongs on boxing's Mount Rushmore.

Well, not Brandon Rios.

But Ariza worked with both Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. Just like the Reynosos work with Canelo.