How can Floyd be "TBE" when he has never fought outside his hometown/country?

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  • Rad
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    How can Floyd be "TBE" when he has never fought outside his hometown/country?

    Every legend and ATG of the last 60 years or so have traveled and fought in enemy territory. The biggest upsets in boxing history have happened on unfamiliar grounds... look at Tyson in Japan, Foreman in Zaire, Joshua in the U.S., Pacquiao in Australia/Vegas, etc.

    True ATGs:
    Duran fought in France, Argentina, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Canada, Panama, etc.

    Ali fought in the Philippines, Zaire, Puerto Rico, England, West Germany, Switzerland, Ba*****, Japan, Canada, Ireland, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc.

    Pacquiao has fought in the Philippines, Thailand, Japan, China, Australia, Malaysia, etc.

    Tyson has fought in Japan, England, Scotland, Denmark, etc.

    Robinson fought in Mexico, Belgium, France, England, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Canada, Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Trinidad and Tobago, etc.

    Archie Moore fought in Australia, Mexico, Italy, Panama, Argentina, Uruguay, Canada, England, Germany, Brazil, Philippines, etc.

    Foreman fought in Zaire, Japan, Venezuela, Jamaica, Puerto Rico, Canada, England, etc.

    Gomez fought in Panama, Nicaragua, Puerto Rico, Japan, Thailand, etc.

    Hagler fought in England, Monaco, Italy, etc.

    Roy Jones Jr. fought in Australia, Russia, Poland, Latvia, etc.

    Trinidad fought in Mexico, Italy, Puerto Rico, France, etc.

    Klitschko brothers fought in Russia, Austria, Germany, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, England, Switzerland, etc.

    Golovkin has fought in Germany, Panama, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Monaco, Denmark, England, etc.

    Oscar has fought in Puerto Rico, Leonard in Canada, Barrera in the UK, Canelo in Mexico, Hopkins in Ecuador, France, etc.

    Spence traveled to Kell Brook's hometown of Sheffield to stop him and take his title in front of a hostile crowd.

    The list goes on and on. For many of these fighters, the U.S isn't even their home country....

    Floyd is the only one who has never fought outside his hometown, not even once.

    Floyd is the champion of Vegas, these other men were true champions of the WORLD.

    Would Floyd still be undefeated if he had fought in Europe, Asia, South America…. in front of hostile crowds, biased referees and judges, having to adapt to different timezones/weather, without any hometown advantages while risking getting drugged or cheated?

    Floyd Mayweather will never be the TBE. That title belongs to those that took risks to prove themselves as MEN.
    Last edited by Rad; 06-01-2022, 11:19 PM.
  • Jacobson
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    #2
    Facts. Floyd is the biggest fraud in boxing history.

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    • Smash
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      #3
      its a lot tougher to be your best & get decisions on the road but if u dont have to do it then maybe its best to be avoided, its not like hes from ukraine for example, there are the iconic venues right on his doorstep & thats where the money is at too, if u can deliver in the ring that is

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      • DaNeutral.
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        #4
        Well he isn't the best ever so it don't matter.

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        • RadChang
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          #5
          Floyd would have at least 2 losses

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          • Rip Chudd
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            #6
            Isn't his hometown Grand Rapids, Michigan?

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            • HENNY
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              Probably has something to do with money, ticket prices, TV contracts, international taxes, stuff like that. Saturday night is prime time in the US, and TV sponsors pay plenty in the US for these slots.

              Also, Floyd doesn't really fight outside his comfort zone. If you fight in the UK, you have to get your body used to the time zone changes, and train somewhere where you aren't used to.

              I'm just speculating of course, but i assume these things play a factor.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #8
                Originally posted by Rip Chudd
                Isn't his hometown Grand Rapids, Michigan?
                - - When Arum gave him his grand homecoming, po'boy didn't count for shyte with the populace.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #9
                  Because greatness isn't what Floyd was after. A zero was What he wanted

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                  • Rip Chudd
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules

                    - - When Arum gave him his grand homecoming, po'boy didn't count for shyte with the populace.
                    So? I don't care. OP said he has never fought outside of his hometown "not even once." That's a lie. Outside of the country? He has a point. But I fail to see that as criteria for ATG status, it's just nitpicking. He fought where the money was. He's also far from being the best ever, but if he wants to call himslef that I don't care, we all know it isn't true

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