Comments Thread For: Welcome To 2022: ShoBox-Level Events On FOX & Fights Fit For Free TV Forced To PPV

[Oldskoolg]

I agree with everything you said except bring back Teddy.

Teddy sucks, he slurs and takes an eternity to make a point and thinks he’s hilarious. I find him the worst of all those you mentioned.

I say bring back Bubblegum Sean O’Grady

[Oldskoolg]

First of all, how many fighters have went to court to sue Al Haymon, or the promoters working with PBC, due to contractual disagreements, i.e. Mikey, Canelo, Terence Crawford? Boxing on network TV was DEAD before PBC! It's dead again, because they do not want to pay boxers! Their only model is PPV, i.e. FOX! Lastly, boxing fans are spoiled! We had Fury vs. Wilder 3, fights for Undisputed @ 140, 154, and 168, all in the same year! Still, all we do is complain about what we're not getting! The only way to stop PPVs are to STOP PAYING FOR THEM! That's not on FOX, that's on us!

What this man here said.

[elfag]

$75 to see two guys coming off a loss, keith not fought in 2.5 years and barrios coming up a division following a KO loss.

That is a joke. what was canelo-GGG, was it the normal 60? only time i remember a higher PPV was may-pac for 100. Actually now that i think about it, I think wilder-fury 2 was like 80 or something.

Still keith-barrios is nothing compared to those high interest fights. it should be on free TV.

[Heru]

What Haymon needs to realize if things continue and the sport keeps losing fans . Fighter's won't have anyone to pay em. If the sport thrives there will be a lottttt more money for everyone.

Our only hope for the future of boxing at this point is DAZN if they can build the subscriber base therefore have more money to put on even better fights . Maybe If the right person replaces Bob Arum in the future with ESPN they can return Top Rank back to it's glory days . Hopefully Probellum can have a lot of success outside the States lot's of room for growth

Key point!

PBC’s business practices have been shortsighted. Their matchmaking built a bridge to nowhere, over compensation drove them to a corner now that resources are depleted, talent acquisition hasn’t replenished the company, and a poor relationship with the media has caused them to salivate at printing negativity.

Thurman is a good fighter, draws higher ratings than most, is coming off his highest profile fight and purse and good action fight, and wants to be paid what he was used to only to find a limited budget. In the 2 1/2 years Thurman’s been off, Pacquiao as a 40+ year old and full time senator fought, retired, and is months into a presidential campaign.

I supported the idea of PBC in the beginning; treating fighters well is important. For it to have a lasting impact, it has to be in harmony with a great business model. They have to regroup and find another way or PBC’s run will be extremely short.

[Get em up]

Teddy is an acquired taste but he knows his boxing. I’ll take him, Max, Foreman, RJJ, Malinaggi and Bernstein

Max and Paulie would make a killer combo. They would probably constantly argue Lol. I like both as commentators even though I dont always agree with their opinions they are at least entertaining

[b Murphington]

$75 to see two guys coming off a loss, keith not fought in 2.5 years and barrios coming up a division following a KO loss.

That is a joke. what was canelo-GGG, was it the normal 60? only time i remember a higher PPV was may-pac for 100. Actually now that i think about it, I think wilder-fury 2 was like 80 or something.

Still keith-barrios is nothing compared to those high interest fights. it should be on free TV.

Honestly, it just shows the financial situation that this FOX/PBC deal is in.

Al burnt through hundreds of millions in 2015 - 2017 paying networks, and after the dust settled, the only network to end up paying for a contract was FOX and it looks like they’re not getting the return they wanted.

Boxing was supposed to be abundant on free tv. I watched numerous bouts at work. I got paid to watch boxing! I remember that’s what PBC was initially all about. That was the selling point back in 2015. Bring boxing back to free tv. Now look at where we are. A bullsh#t fight for a $75 PPV like it was Canelo vs GGG or Mayweather vs Pacquiao.

[DClefthook]

What will FOX and PBC do after this year when their contract expires.

Doubt it will be renewed.

you said that last year...and the year before....and the year before

[richardt]

Rather than looking at all the promoters and managers - they all have issues, it is time we boycott lesser fights on PPV now! Free streams where you don't sign in to watch are a way to rebel against this. There is nothing in the CBS, ABC, NBC model of yesteryear that would not work today if handled properly. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Wilfredo Benitez was on ABC Sports, free. Imagine that. Sure, fights went to closed circuit but those were massive stars against massive stars like Leonard vs Hearns. Even Hagler vs crushing KO artist Mugabi was worth PPV. Not this crap we have today. Rebel, period! Find your free streams and that way you will be paying exactly what the fight is worth....free. If the Thurman fight was $20 and had a better undercard, setting aside the good Nery vs Castro fight, $20 would be at least reasonable. But the all time and I do mean ALL TIME worse value for PPV's ever was Julio Cesar Chavez Junior vs low level contenders. Those were something like $29 with JCJ against a low level contender - which should have been on an undercard of a non-PPV where it belonged.

[DClefthook]

PBC has also run out of VC funds after destroying their reputation in the industry with this huge fiasco: https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2016/5/2...ns-boxing-news

you said PBC has run out of VC funds ever since 2016....yet they're about to give Canelo 50 milly to fight Charlo...I think I remember you advising us that the U.S. real estate market was fine in 2008 and advised us against buying Phizer stock in 2019

[DClefthook]

FOX has been very disappointing! SHO, on the other hand, has been holding it down! The GRJ vs. Masagayo card, and the Colbert vs. Gutierrez (2/26) card, are both equal or better than Thurman vs. Barrios, and neither one are PPVs! Add to that, this here...

Charlo-Castano Rematch Reset For March 19; Likely In Los Angeles Area, Not In Houston

Showtime, which televised the 12-round split draw between Castano and Charlo nearly six months ago, also will air their second bout for full supremacy in the 154-pound division. Premier Boxing Champions founder Al Haymon considered making the Castano-Charlo rematch the headliner of a pay-per-view event, but Showtime is expected to keep it on that premium cable network as part of its “Showtime Championship Boxing” series.

https://www.boxingscene.com/charlo-castano-rematch-reset-march-19-likely-los-angeles-area-not-houston--163420

So as far as i'm concerned, F-K FOX!!! Thank You Showtime! Thank You Al Bernstein, Mauro Ranallo, and Steve Farhood! Lastly, Thank You Al Haymon!

A jokes aside you guys are right. I said 2 years ago that FOX is not a true boxing platform like showtime. FOX is great with mainstream well organized sports like football and baseball but nowhere committed to boxing as Showtime. I love the showtime crew but as Adrian Broner says "and fuq Steve Farhood" hahahaha