Who is the better fighter between Canelo and Floyd?

[BodyBagz]

Boxing has no favoritism for style and evasion or a bias to defense. Their crossroads weren’t equal nor ideal, but it’s great it happened. There’s more favoritism for offense in fighting than defense. So your idea of pugilism is flawed because Canelo didn’t invent walking guys down. That wasn’t Floyd’s style because he was afraid. Canelo is a complete fighter. Floyd is a complete boxer. Nobody cares about what the Harlem Globetrotters can do elusively. It’s about the actual NBA and grit.

It matters

Ali will always be placed above Foreman and the like.
More fans will enjoy rock em sock em guys like Gatti, even though they always lose to better comp.
Mike Tyson will always go down as a ferocious fighter until he stopped fighting bums.

Everyone loves a brawl where judges don't have a say.
There's something to be said about a rock em sock em guy getting owned by a boxer, though.

Whatever tag is placed on Nelo would never be better than May. I shudder to think what would happen if May were a young man when they fought.

[BodyBagz]

Copouts. Lol. Because Floyd said so innit.

Gatti was more of a gangsta still landing bombs with pulverized hands. Gatti never cried like Floyd

I still don't recall May crying.
He definitely didn't cry while destroying Gatti

[Thuglife Nelo]

It matters

Ali will always be placed above Foreman and the like.
More fans will enjoy rock em sock em guys like Gatti, even though they always lose to better comp.
Mike Tyson will always go down as a ferocious fighter until he stopped fighting bums.

Everyone loves a brawl where judges don't have a say.
There's something to be said about a rock em sock em guy getting owned by a boxer, though.

Whatever tag is placed on Nelo would never be better than May. I shudder to think what would happen if May were a young man when they fought.

And Floyd didn’t fight like Ali. And “rock em sock em” has nothing to do with Floyd or Canelo nor Ali. You should know better… “rock em sock em” isn’t synonymous to the fighters we are talking about. I’m talking about elite COME FORWARD offense, and elite Blackfoot defense. We can all agree Ali, Floyd, Canelo and ultra elite counter punchers in their own style. But don’t try to justify wreckless sparring styles as if to say Floyd vs Canelo

[BodyBagz]

And Floyd didn’t fight like Ali. And “rock em sock em” has nothing to do with Floyd or Canelo nor Ali. You should know better… “rock em sock em” isn’t synonymous to the fighters we are talking about. I’m talking about elite COME FORWARD offense, and elite Blackfoot defense. We can all agree Ali, Floyd, Canelo and ultra elite counter punchers in their own style. But don’t try to justify wreckless sparring styles as if to say Floyd vs Canelo

You're right.
Super huge gap between the Gatti's of the sport and Ali/May/Nelo.

Of the 2, though.....I can't see a scenario where Nelo beats May unless it's old May at MW.
Their best versions were never meant to fight.

[Thuglife Nelo]

Their best versions were never meant to fight.

You’re correct. But just how Reynoso is the most popular trainer seeking accolades and challenges, it’s unfortunate that Floyd didn’t do the same. Or perhaps Floyd did, but Canelo got lucky in his generation fighting harder punchers and bigger guys. I’m sure it’s safe to say that Canelo still has bigger guys to fight like Charlo or Benavidez let alone the whole 175 guys now. Floyd didn’t have that. Therefore, one simply can’t say Floyd was “better” until Canelo retires. Right now Canelo has like 5-6 option of fighters that are all former or current Champions. Should he beat them all that’s a leap on the resume… meaning Floyd’s resume becomes softer. If you say that’s all subjective well then you have to respect the current circumstances or facts

[PRINCEKOOL]

You’re correct. But just how Reynoso is the most popular trainer seeking accolades and challenges, it’s unfortunate that Floyd didn’t do the same. Or perhaps Floyd did, but Canelo got lucky in his generation fighting harder punchers and bigger guys. I’m sure it’s safe to say that Canelo still has bigger guys to fight like Charlo or Benavidez let alone the whole 175 guys now. Floyd didn’t have that. Therefore, one simply can’t say Floyd was “better” until Canelo retires. Right now Canelo has like 5-6 option of fighters that are all former or current Champions. Should he beat them all that’s a leap on the resume… meaning Floyd’s resume becomes softer. If you say that’s all subjective well then you have to respect the current circumstances or facts

How many all-time great fighters has Alvarez beaten? Closer to their peak? Probably one 1 and that is Golovkin, but as you know many people have a perception that Alvarez has never beaten Golovkin legitimately 'I am not one of those people, whoever got the decision got the decision'. I have not watched the two fights extensively.

Floyd Mayweather has beaten not only better fighters skill for skill, but historically he has fought and beaten more all-time greats.

All these fighters Alvarez is facing, are just fighters who are GOOD at this time in history. Caleb Plant is a level below fighters even like Carl Froch, Joe Calzaghe, Chris Eubank Senior, Nigel Benn 'Plant would of been just a tough title defense for all of those fighters'.

But it was billed as some sort of monumental challenge for Alvarez.

You cannot still get away from the fact, that Floyd Mayweather beat Canelo Alvarez 12-0 to 12-1 'When they fought, and Mayweather was at that stage becoming a regressed fighter'. Mayweather was no longer as physically strong as he used to be, and although his endurance was still great 'I don't think it was at the level of some of his past fights'. And the manner in which he beat Alvarez was on a multitude levels, skill, tactics and exposing Alvarez's endurance.

If Alvarez was the bigger stronger, more enthusiastic fighter. He could of just chased Mayweather and threw complete caution to the wind 'When he realized that he was not going to be able to match Mayweather's speed of processing and skills'. But that never happened, Alvarez did not have the endurance to push the fight.

And I think there is a high possibility, that this trait of Alvarez's may unearth itself once again in his career. I still believe that all the big weight cuts, are starting to have a affect on his performances.

It is clear to me that Mayweather was a better fighter, ability wise. But Alvarez's career is still on going, he can still improve his resume greatly. But ability wise and skill for skill, no matter who he faces 'I don't think he is a better fighter than Mayweather'. When I analyse is attributes individually, it is only really his punching power which greater than Mayweather's.

The performance levels I have seen from Alvarez, have not been comparable to Mayweather or Pacquiao. Bernard Hopkins was also a better fighter than Alvarez.

[QueensburyRules]

How many all-time great fighters has Alvarez beaten? Closer to their peak? Probably one 1 and that is Golovkin, but as you know many people have a perception that Alvarez has never beaten Golovkin legitimately 'I am not one of those people, whoever got the decision got the decision'. I have not watched the two fights extensively.

Floyd Mayweather has beaten not only better fighters skill for skill, but historically he has fought and beaten more all-time greats.

All these fighters Alvarez is facing, are just fighters who are GOOD at this time in history. Caleb Plant is a level below fighters even like Carl Froch, Joe Calzaghe, Chris Eubank Senior, Nigel Benn 'Plant would of been just a tough title defense for all of those fighters'.

But it was billed as some sort of monumental challenge for Alvarez.

You cannot still get away from the fact, that Floyd Mayweather beat Canelo Alvarez 12-0 to 12-1 'When they fought, and Mayweather was at that stage becoming a regressed fighter'. Mayweather was no longer as physically strong as he used to be, and although his endurance was still great 'I don't think it was at the level of some of his past fights'. And the manner in which he beat Alvarez was on a multitude levels, skill, tactics and exposing Alvarez's endurance.

If Alvarez was the bigger stronger, more enthusiastic fighter. He could of just chased Mayweather and threw complete caution to the wind 'When he realized that he was not going to be able to match Mayweather's speed of processing and skills'. But that never happened, Alvarez did not have the endurance to push the fight.

And I think there is a high possibility, that this trait of Alvarez's may unearth itself once again in his career. I still believe that all the big weight cuts, are starting to have a affect on his performances.

It is clear to me that Mayweather was a better fighter, ability wise. But Alvarez's career is still on going, he can still improve his resume greatly. But ability wise and skill for skill, no matter who he faces 'I don't think he is a better fighter than Mayweather'. When I analyse is attributes individually, it is only really his punching power which greater than Mayweather's.

The performance levels I have seen from Alvarez, have not been comparable to Mayweather or Pacquiao. Bernard Hopkins was also a better fighter than Alvarez.

- - Lotta wasted verbiage to say U like Sissyboy fighters who break out squallin' like ttttybabies ever time they break a nail.

[elfag]

The irony of it. Pac best common opponents dlh, hatton, and cotton in better fashion than floyd ever could or would but it don't mean much to you. But it somehow does when floyd beats non common opponents with Nell convincinvly?
Nell best Ssm quite convincingky, didn't nearly get koed by him. Nell also best cotton as good as floyd did.

Floyd beat all common opponents that pac and canelo beat and then he beat pac and canelo.

lol and pac and nelo fans still play 5d chess in their head trying to convince themselves that this actually means pac and canelo were the better fighters.

[djtmal]

I still don't recall May crying.
He definitely didn't cry while destroying Gatti

Gatti was over the hill

[Punch on Tap]

If fighter Nelo fought boxer May 10x, who do you see winning ?

People forget. PBF was a boxer puncher with a very respectable KO% (even with chronic bad hands).

OLD May, not so much (hell, even Pac stopped ending his opponents when he moved up).

Floyd wins at every stage and each time. Pretty boy was literally a savage. When Floyd was Canelo’s age he was still hurting people. He just was in his 4th and 5th weight division. When Canelo is in his mid 30s he’s going to be fighting against some young strong bulls. And we will see his KO % drop. It’s the natural progression of fighters.