Who is the better fighter between Canelo and Floyd?

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  • Roadblock
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    #41
    [QUOTE=hugh grant;n31273550]

    The irony of it. Pac best common opponents dlh, hatton, and cotton in better fashion than floyd ever could or would but it don't mean much to you. But it somehow does when floyd beats non common opponents with Nell convincinvly?
    Nell best Ssm quite convincingky, didn't nearly get koed by him. Nell also best cotton as good as floyd did[/QUOTE

    Strange how the common opponents said Floyd was better and they all picked Floyd to beat Manny when they fought. Their perspective must be different than from an armchair.

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    • Boxing fan1981
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      #42
      People acting like he beat a prime Oscar, prime Duran, prime Canelo, prime Leonard.

      Then you see his resume and WHEN he beat them and you ***ing laugh.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Boxing fan1981

        Floyd’s era was killers row??? So who dude, who? I asked the question again with it going unanswered.

        Who was so bad ass that Floyd shut down? Past prime pac and weight drained green Canelo is all he has.

        Oscar was old already, so was Mosley. That’s it. Everyone else was good but no killers. Quit the bullshiiiit
        Mosley Oscar Cotto Manny JMM Hatton,,,,,, all HOF and a ATG.

        Now name Canelos opponents that rank in ability with any of the above, imagining they are all the same weight, its a mute argument unless you hypothetically make them all the same weight class.

        I get it you're young and dumb, killers row to you is 12 Mike Tysons one after the other, go look at the guys Floyd beat and their KO ratios.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Boxing fan1981
          People acting like he beat a prime Oscar, prime Duran, prime Canelo, prime Leonard.

          Then you see his resume and WHEN he beat them and you ***ing laugh.
          When was Floyds prime ?

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          • hugh grant
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            #45
            [QUOTE=Roadblock;n31273562]
            Originally posted by Roadblock

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            Strange how the common opponents said Floyd was better and they all picked Floyd to beat Manny when they fought. Their perspective must be different than from an armchair.
            Yeh I'm sure most picked Floyd to beat 70 fight former flyweight not far removed from being koed by jmm. People can clearly see Pac beat common opponents better than Floyd ever could. That's why Pac is greater. That's why jmm, dlh say Pac s had greater career.
            I mean Floyd fans even trying to make case for Floyd being better than nel o as nel o has struggled with lara, Ggg and Floyd not even proved he can beat those guys
            Last edited by hugh grant; 01-22-2022, 07:08 AM.

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            • El_Maldito_Rey
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              #46
              Canelo- handsome, ****ing wife, has a stable of horses, golfer, #1 boxer in the world before 30, loved all over the world, crossover appeal, speaks 2 languages.

              Gayweather - ugly little troll, balding, no women are attracted to him, gay tendencies, hated in his own country, people paid to watch him lose, a simp, can't read or speak his own language.

              Canelo will always be better.

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              • Boxing fan1981
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                #47
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                Mosley Oscar Cotto Manny JMM Hatton,,,,,, all HOF and a ATG.

                Now name Canelos opponents that rank in ability with any of the above, imagining they are all the same weight, its a mute argument unless you hypothetically make them all the same weight class.

                I get it you're young and dumb, killers row to you is 12 Mike Tysons one after the other, go look at the guys Floyd beat and their KO ratios.
                Mosley washed up, Oscar washed up, Manny passed prime, JMM moved up two weight classes and cheated at the scales by Floyd.

                Ill give you Hatton and Cotto.

                Canelo beat GGG, and Cotto.

                Canelo also beat a prime Plant, prime Saunders, prime Smith, prime Lara, prime Trout, prime Jacobs.


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                • koolkc107
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                  #48
                  Floyd, and it's not really a debate.

                  Floyd boatraced EVERY opponent he faced- even if it took a rematch to do it.

                  Canelo has had plenty of close controversial fights that some folks think he actually lost and even had plenty of doubters in the one rematch he did.

                  But worst of all, Canelo really does the kind of cherrypcherrypicking that Floyd was unjustly accused of. You look at Floyd's resume and it's full of guys coming in off of knocking someone else out or off career performances. You look at Canelo's resume and there are too many guys coming off of losses or bad outings.

                  But, it'll be moot in a year or so. My prediction is in the next 2 or 3 Canelo fights, one of the cherrypicks will go horribly wrong- from Canelo's point of view of course.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Boxing fan1981
                    Tough to say. The lazy response is Floyd.

                    But what would have happened if Canelo was 36 and Floyd had been just 23? I think Canelo would have beat his ass bad.
                    At what weight? What weight was Mayweather fighting at when he was 23? Canelo Alvarez is already starting to struggle. All the big weight cuts, are now effecting his endurance.

                    Floyd Mayweather was not at his peak, and made a 23 year old Alvarez look unfit 'It was not just about levels, Mayweather appeared to be the fitter fighter even at that stage of his career'.

                    I would say that the Mayweather who fought De La Hoya, probably would of stopped Alvarez. Alvarez skill for skill has not gotten miles better, he has gotten bigger and is fighting fighters who are not as good.

                    Caleb Plant skill for skill, is not as good as Shane Mosley or Miguel Cotto.

                    I have already given my response indepth in my first post.
                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-22-2022, 11:33 AM.

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                    • gauze
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                      #50
                      miguel cotto deserved the decision against both of them.
                      just imagine if either one of them fought a prime cotto. he would have BEAT THEIR MOTHERFU CKING ASSES.

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