Look Back In Anger: Canelo vs. Saunders

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This should be good.

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A fight where it ends by KO/TKO/TOWEL isn't really worth reliving. There's no robbery/controversy aspect

However, reliving Nelo bashing BHS is a good thing.

[Guest]

ROUND TWO:

People say Canelo's improved his technique, but I sometimes wonder if he has? His handspeed is quick, but when he marches forward with those awkward foot movements it's like looking at a gay ginger crab. People say he really came on against, say, Khan, but Amir Khan is a guy who, while not exactly gassing, does decline in energy as a fight goes on, and has the chin of a 7-year-old girl.

Canelo took this round with some hard bodyshots, but I dunno if he's that good, or whether it's just that he wins by KOing the opponents. And that's kind of strange, how a 4 foot ginge has suddenly developed the power to knock down walls and KO light heavyweights, even talking about going up to Cruiser. I said "strange". I didn't say "it's blatantly obvious he must be roided up to the gills", I said "strange".

But what I was thinking during this okayish round is... who would you rather look like out of these two fighters? Whose affliction would you decide to take on?

Obviously Canelo is the better looking guy, and Billy Joe walks around all day with that beetroot splash of a birthmark on his face. And I wouldn't be keen on that.

But then think about it... if you were Canelo, every time you took your pants (underpants, Fat Yanks) off, you'd think to yourself "that reminds me... I must go to the shops and buy some more grated carrots."

I dunno if I could live my life with ginger pubes, I really don't. It's one to ponder on, isn't it?


Score: 19-19

[Guest]

I've been a bit busy these past couple of days, so let's catch up with two rounds:



ROUND THREE:

Canelo round, but more competitive than I recalled. The commentary team keep talking about how Canelo is a much harder puncher and labouring (laboring, Fat Yanks) on it, which bugs me, as it's wasting time. We KNOW Canelo is a much harder puncher.. Billy Joe Saunders is probably a moderate puncher, but that's not the way he was going to win this fight. If Canelo can take a flush shot off GGG and not blink (which did seriously impress me) then BJS TKOing him was always going to be highly unlikely. If BJS was going to win this bout, it'd be on points. He'd have to do what he did to David LeMewMew, and, although there's flashes of it here and there, there's not enough of it, and I feel in pain just HEARING the shots from Canelo. You can hear every bite of special meat on them.

SCORE: 29-28 Canelo



ROUND FOUR:

So, what do I think about these fighters? Well, I have mixed feelings about both. We'll get to Canelo another time, but I used to HATE Billy Joe Saunders as the guy simply has no class. Putting another man's cap down his pants (underpants, Fat Yanks) or getting his kid to hit a guy in the balls... it's gross stuff. This is a guy who, if you scolded him for not washing his hands after he went to the toilet, he'd lick them clean - and that's after a shit. Still, for a gypsy he has class, I suppose - he'll only ****** a horse if it's consensual.

But then... THAT move against David LeMewMew. You know the one. Looking out over the ropes to find out where a missed punch went. That made me a fan. And some of his pranks - such as getting that crackhead to smack a man in the face after BJS tells her he's a nonce and he'll give her some crack if she does it - well, people got sanctimonious about it, but I can't deny I laughed. I really did.

There are parts in this round where you can see BJS's class - his fighting class, I mean - and he does a good job sliding around. Canelo misses a lot here, BJS does have some skills. But then there are other parts where he's just like a heavy bag for Canelo, and an ominous moment where Canelo catches him with an uppercut... a foretelling of what's to come, almost like if you bent down in front of me when I have my dick out. Speaking of bumming, the round ends with BJS bending forward, and being kind of clinch-pushed face first into Canelo's crotch... how on Earth did I not screenshot that for an avatar? Maybe I did and I forgot.

You look at this round, it's about a fifth BJS taking shots, and the rest BJS avoiding shots. But you can't give him the round in any sense as his own activity is too low. Again, it's the "three tugs of a ****" rule that gives it to Canelo....

SCORE: 39-37 Canelo

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ROUND FIVE:

So Billy Joe Saunders comes round your house and asks to take a bath. You don't really want to let him, but it seems rude to say no. Then when he gets out, he's left a turd in there, explaining "I needed to take a shit and I didn't want to let the water get cold." When you get angry with him over it, he grabs the turd out of the bath, eats a third of it, puts another third in his pocket to take home for his kid to eat, and force feeds you the remainder like a bully.

You can picture that happening, can't you? That's the kind of guy he is.

But in this fight, he's getting fluid here, and increasing the volume. There's one horrible thudding body shot from Canelo (and, as we'll see, he only needs one shot to drastically change the direction of this fight) but Billy's avoiding the majority, and landing some of his own. He doesn't seem to find it hard to land on Canelo, and seems to be getting into his rhythm. Now, you might suggest that this is because Canelo's not especially concerned with the power, and that might be right, but in terms of scoring, I have to give that one to Saunders.

SCORE: 48-47 Canelo

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Whose snake would you rather suckle on through the first 5 rounds?

[Guest]

Whose snake would you rather suckle on through the first 5 rounds?

I know Canelo has his supporters, and I guess I can see that he's OKAY, but he's not really a dish in my eyes.

Saunders is obviously... I'm not saying he's UGLY, but he's not in dish contention, is he?

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ROUND SIX:

I've been a bit busy the last few days, where did we get to?

It's interesting to see little bits and pieces, and ponder stuff. Like... would it be possible for BJS to KO/TKO Canelo? We've seen in the past that Canelo can take a shot and then some, and BJS isn't the biggest puncher in the division by any means. But as Joe Frazier once said (albeit about heavyweights): "Any man can take you out with one shot if he hits you clean on the clock."

This came to mind because I noted that Canelo was defensively minded with his upper body when Billy is throwing shots, as if not necessarily shitting his pants or what have you, but realising there's enough power that needs to be considered with a kind of respect. As opposed to boxing with his hands down, letting the opponent hit him flush on the chin just for ****s and giggles, obviously.

There's a slight grey mark around Canelo's eye in this one, just slight, like there's a little puffiness there. Obviously the question of "who has the worst eye damage in this fight?" will go completely the other way in a couple of rounds, but interesting to note.

There's also a bit early in this (just after the clinch) where Canelo misses wildly with an uppercut... BJS doesn't opt to take the piss like he did with David LeMewMew, as he realises this is a different kind of cat.

Incidentally, while I saw this properly at the time, the version I'm watching now is on a popular video sharing website under the title "HD". Who thought this blurry **** was "HD", Mr. Magoo? You can hardly tell Canelo's a ginge on it.

The commentary team has Carl Froch talking about the speed and footwork, and Paulie Malignaggi talking about the power punches.... next round they'll probably cut to Amir Khan for a word on punch resistance.

I remember someone in NSB saying "I can't see how people are giving BJS these rounds", and I couldn't get that idea on first glance. But Canelo landed some solid body shots in that one.

I actually didn't really count punches landed there, it may have been close. My criteria for scoring usually has punches landed quite down the list, I usually score by:


1. Who in the ring is the biggest dish?

2. Which one of them looks like they have the biggest cock?

3. Has one of them done a funny dance*? (* Not an Amir "spaghetti legs can can dance", I mean like a showboat dance)

4. Does one of them look like a daft cunt?

5. Who has landed the most punches, and of what variety?


It's quite low down, see. So while the punch output may be similar, there were instances here where Canelo was made to look like, indeed, a daft cunt. People remember Billy Joe's eye going and his corner throwing down a towel quicker than a German on a sun lounger, but he was doing well here. There were at least a couple of occasions where Canelo missed badly, and one notable occasion where BJS got his head to spin with a flush hook.

At this stage it looked like it was a competitive fight, even if the judges had Canelo up.


SCORE: 57-57

[QueensburyRules]

Score: 10-9 Saunders.

- - Whack BJ 4 U is it?

[Guest]

ROUND SEVEN:

Perhaps the hardest round to score in many ways, as although BJS looked comfortable, his output dropped and Canelo did land plenty of bodyshots. Sometimes I guess you can "humbug" the judges, and move around like you're winning the round, but you're not really. With BJS's offence relatively low, and the fact that I gave him the benefit of the doubt to him last round, I think I'll shade this one to Canelo, but it's the closest of the seven IMO, and the one you could most likely say "fuck it, 10-10."

So, why do I dislike Canelo? Well, I don't, really. The cunt's growing on me tbh. I did used to hate the way he'd take certain paths, such as the most shot route to a LHW crown, and the way we can serious talk about a guy who's "officially" 5'9 but in reality probably closer to 5'7 competing at cruiserweight shows how "special" his power is. "special".

I also hated the way he'd always get the benefit of the doubt in close fights, something that used to happen to Jermaine Taylor a lot back in the day, for those older members, though which did lead to one of my proudest brags when I correctly predicted (and had £5 on) him getting a draw against Wanky Wrong.

Of course, any fight that's even remotely close is "robbery of the century" in NSB, and I don't particularly find this one as egregious as many of his others, such as supposedly going 1-0-1 against GGG. But at this stage I have it 67-66 to Canelo (Bias Brit!), so 4-3 in rounds, though it could have gone the other way, too. Billy could be one up, it's a close fight IMO. (Bias Brit!)

On the official scorecards at this stage, Glenn Feldman has given BJS just 2 rounds (so only one less than me, to be fair), Tim Cheatham (perhaps not the ideal name for a Canelo judge) has given him 3, and Max DeLuca has given him 2. All three gave Billy the first in that "did anything actually happen?" round, and the only one on which they didn't agree was, ironically enough, this seventh round.

SCORE: 67-66 Canelo