Comments Thread For: Arum: Ball in Canelo's Court on Fighting Joe Smith, Artur Beterbiev

[Oracle01]

You claim Plant has beaten bobody yet the guy on you profile pic is in the same situation...........

Smith, BJS, Plant, Benavidez, Charlo all those guys are great fighters, saying the ones who Canelo beat are not legit because you think so, is not a smart nor valid argument, that's the difference between a real boxing fan and a hater, I give compliments to all those fighters because they are great fighters, I never contradict myself, I always keep it real with everyone because I'm consistent with my narrative.

You can't call a fighter bad for beating nobody but calling another fighter great for beating nobody, you are not making any sense, and for the record that "That guy it not a legit SM because he had not beaten everybody on the weightclass" narrative is total bull****, because by that own standard Canelo would've been an underdog when he first moved up to 168 to fight Rocky Fielding, also Canelo would be considered a bum moving up against Makabu. żIs that the case? No.

See?

I usually don't get into heated arguments in these forums but sometimes I feel the need to expose how BIAS some guys on these comunities are.

Maybe I should have been more clear. Its not just who you beat but how you beat them. While their resume's are comparable there is quite a big difference in how they win their fights. Smith, and Plant have often looked quite average, while David steam rollers everyone of his opponents and stops them, so overall he is far more impressive, so that is also a way I judge them.

Smith got walked down and beat up by Ryder, and was given robbery win imo, either way he got exposed in that fight as a fighter who just curls up against the ropes vs anyone who walks him down. If you get beat up by Ryder you are not a great fighter.

Plant generally clearly wins by points, but even then at sometimes has shown to be vulnerable even vs the like of a 38 year old Truax who went the distance, when David would have stopped him within 6. Just nowhere as impressive work as when David gets in the ring.

BJS literally has done nothing at SM other than win a vacant WBO belt off a nobody, and he has no speed or power, just decent boxing skills, he is a not an impressive fighter. If you don't have an educated eye you won't understand what I am talking about though.

That guy it not a legit SM because he had not beaten everybody on the weightclass" narrative is total bull****, because by that own standard Canelo would've been an underdog when he first moved up to 168 to fight Rocky Fielding, also Canelo would be considered a bum moving up against Makabu. żIs that the case? No.

I don't care who is favorite and reputations, I care about results. The idea of giving a fighter credit in a different weight class without him actually performing is idiotic, especially one who is as average as BJS who is basically just a domestic level fighter. Of course a greater more established fighter is given more credit.

[Boxingfanatic75]

I love the Canelo arguments. They are all full of seething man hate. It’s like Canelo didn’t pick one of his haters as the prom date. He could beat 10 fighters 10 minutes apart on a single night yet you’d have the hater crew in here to admonish him for not knocking out each one.

it’s hilarious and those that continue their charade are boxing laughingstocks.

[Mammoth]

There's more interest and more money fighting Charlo and Benavidez.

[daggum]

canelo vs joe smith? come on