Steve Kim and Michael Montero have turned on Crawford

[The Big Dunn]

Nah man they're just sick of the "he's a racist" rhetoric that has taken over our culture
The way I see it is Bob Arum is a business man, he doesn't care if you're black, white, or yellow he is there to make money off of you. If you sign with him, that's on you. You think he's bad for your brand, just leave like Floyd and Oscar did.

You can't resign and take that guaranteed money then cry about it afterward. He could have jumped ship and went to PBC but he decided not to because he was comfortable with the arrangement he had, making millions while fighting easy opposition.

Nowadays it's popular to blame all your mistakes in life on someone else but that's not how the real world works.

Fair points but your opinion in this is made before any facts are presented.

None of us know the behind the scenes info. Maybe Crawford had evidence to support his claim. If he doesn’t he will lose or have the case thrown out.

But to be mad or angry because black people around the country are speaking up about things is utterly ridiculous.

[Mammoth]

what did he say besides he loses money on his fights? Link us some racist stuff if you could. The lawsuit specifically cites racial bias or some sh^^ like that
Crawford is mad he didn't get the Spence fight but Arum can't make a fight the other guy don't want.

I need to link you to something I'm not claiming?

[Boxing fan1981]

You’re completely full of shit. He has every right to use the courts as any other citizen. Why would anyone not be alright with him exercising his rights as an American citizen?

You’ve decided the suit had no merit without seeing any evidence presented because you don’t like the subject of his lawsuit.

That is utterly insane.

You’re real issue seems to be you don’t like it when black people express they may have been discriminated against, especially if they are wealthy.

Worse, you decided to stop being a fan solely because he used the proper legal forum to argue his case, not because he did anything illegal or immoral.

Dude you have some real problems.

Ridiculous post.

The courts are there to be used for real issues, not this bullshiiit.

[Jsmooth9876]

Fair points but your opinion in this is ?made before any facts are presented.

None of us know the behind the scenes info. Maybe Crawford had evidence to support his claim. If he doesn’t he will lose or have the case thrown out.

But to be mad or angry because black peoples rocks the country are speaking up about things is utterly ridiculous.

If someone is a racist they deserve to be called it. What irks me is everyone is now a racist if you don't agree with the woke nonsense. I'm the type of guy who sees people for who they are regardless of color. If you're an azzhole then that's what you are, I don't care if you happen to be white or black or anything in between

The term racist has lost all it's meaning in the last few years thanks to woke ********, and mostly white ones at that, slinging the word at anyone that disagrees with them about basically anything at this point.

If Crawford has the evidence to prove Arum is a racist then cool, I'll call Arum a racist. If he doesn't then Crawford is a scumbag and I'll lose all respect for the guy as I would anyone else that pulled the same stuff.

[The Big Dunn]

Ridiculous post.

The courts are there to be used for real issues, not this bullshiiit.

So possibly being discriminated against is bullshit and not a “real issue”.

Yeah dude you got some real issues. You were never a Crawford fan. You’re lying to try and hide who you really are.

[Boxing fan1981]

So possibly being discriminated against is bullshit and not a “real issue”.

Yeah dude you got some real issues. You were never a Crawford fan. You’re lying to try and hide who you really are.

Stfu biiitch.

You’re only backing this ****** ass suit because you’re black.

We all know Arum is out to make a buck off any idiot that’s willing to get played.

He’s in it to take from you, no matter what skin color you are.

Now *** off as I’ve had enough of you and your fostering of black victim mentality.

[The Big Dunn]

If someone is a racist they deserve to be called it. What irks me is everyone is now a racist if you don't agree with the woke nonsense. I'm the type of guy who sees people for who they are regardless of color. If you're an azzhole then that's what you are, I don't care if you happen to be white or black or anything in between

The term racist has lost all it's meaning in the last few years thanks to woke ********, and mostly white ones at that, slinging the word at anyone that disagrees with them about basically anything at this point.

If Crawford has the evidence to prove Arum is a racist then cool, I'll call Arum a racist. If he doesn't then Crawford is a scumbag and I'll lose all respect for the guy as I would anyone else that pulled the same stuff.

That is ridiculous smooth. Wokeness has nothing to do with this. That is a cop out. Black people are raising issues never before discussed and it makes people uncomfortable because they dont want to hear about how their actions affect others that don’t look like them.

Now I agree with your point in the 2nd paragraph. But that is just convenient. White ******** doing that isn’t the same as a non white person talking about feeling discriminated against or being treated in a racist way. Again, Crawford has to prove his case. If he can’t then the responses I’m seeing are valid.

I have no problem with your last paragraph as it’s based on evidence.

[ShoulderRoll]

Nah man they're just sick of the "he's a racist" rhetoric that has taken over our culture
The way I see it is Bob Arum is a business man, he doesn't care if you're black, white, or yellow he is there to make money off of you. If you sign with him, that's on you. You think he's bad for your brand, just leave like Floyd and Oscar did.

You can't resign and take that guaranteed money then cry about it afterward. He could have jumped ship and went to PBC but he decided not to because he was comfortable with the arrangement he had, making millions while fighting easy opposition.

Nowadays it's popular to blame all your mistakes in life on someone else but that's not how the real world works.

The point is Steve Kim and Michael Montero defended everything about Crawford as long as he was with Top Rank, but as soon as he turns on Top Rank they start the negativity against him.

It shows where their loyalties lie. If there was any doubt.

That's certainly no way for objective boxing media to act.

[The Big Dunn]

Stfu biiitch.

You’re only backing this ****** ass suit because you’re black.

We all know Arum is out to make a buck off any idiot that’s willing to get played.

He’s in it to take from you, no matter what skin color you are.

Now *** off as I’ve had enough of you and your fostering of black victim mentality.

At no point did I post or imply I am backing this suit. I defended his right as an American, not a black man. Just because you’ve boiled this down to race doesn’t mean every black poster has.

That is fine if you feel that way. As to the specific case, you can’t make a judgement without seeing any evidence. His being black doesn’t make his case without merit.

You literally posted you stopped being a fan because he filed the suit. That is insane and indicative of some deep seeded racial issues.

Ahh the black victim mentality garbage. Used by non blacks when their irrational race hating mentality is exposed . I never posted Arum was guilty of anything.

You’re a lying scumbag. You were never a fan of Crawford. You posted that for cover to try and hide who you really are and your true agenda.

[Jsmooth9876]

That is ridiculous smooth. Wokeness has nothing to do with this. That is a cop out. Black people are raising issues never before discussed and it makes people uncomfortable because they dont lose ike to hear about how their actions affect others that don’t look like them.

Now I agree with your point in the 2nd paragraph. But that is just convenient. White ******** doing that isn’t the same as a non white person talking about feeling discriminated against or being treated in a racist way. Again, Crawford has to prove his case. If he can’t then the responses I’m seeing are valid.

I have no problem with your last paragraph as it’s based on evidence.

Wokeness is what people have soured on and people throwing the word racist around has made it so when people use it, it doesn't mean anything anymore and people immediately think it's a load of BS until actually proven

I don't feel any kind of way about hearing about issues either. I treat people with respect if they deserve it and I don't if they don't deserve it. I think the world would be a much better place if people thought that way. Unfortunately we have people who want to divide us instead for their own gain