Comments Thread For: Photos: Jarrell Miller, Mariusz Wach - Go To War in Sparring Session

[archiemoore1]

Big Baby vs "the Real Big Baby", in 2022. Let's get it on

[Walexhris]

Jarell miller is a clean fighter, his body produces these substances naturally, he'd always test Positive for them...

[mexiFistology]

Maruiz Wack knows Baby Miller was dirty when they fought, i guess he decided to whoop him in sparring on a even playing field

[P to the J]

Fury and Whyte both tested positive for Anabolic steroids Canelo and Povetkin didn't. The stuff they caught Povetkin with was allowed in competition up until a certain point so before that everyone who used it was roiding when it was legal? That's like saying everyone who drank Coca-Cola up until 2004 was juicing in the Olympics.

I’ll absolutely give you that, but I was making a broader point there about what’s considered acceptable. And since most people aren’t attuned to nuance (esp in the field of drugs!) I chose not to bother delineating between those 2 sets of boxers.

On a side note, can I be sure you’re not saying Canelo’s not culpable here? You haven’t taken the contaminated meat story?

[P to the J]

Don’t forget Ortiz who is the most feared heavyweight ever the boogeyman .

Sheeeeeeit, I forgot about that one (somehow!).

That’s my point. This is about whose reputation will, or even can, be laundered, and why? We might be looking back in 4-5 years with Miller’s drug abuse all forgotten about by the boxing world (if not the fans), but when he first popped, he was persona non grata, even though the likes of Ortiz were just ambling about.

TLDR: If it’s commercially expedient to do so, Miller’s drug abuses will be ignored like the boxers I’ve mentioned

[Cypocryphy]

Fury and Whyte both tested positive for Anabolic steroids Canelo and Povetkin didn't. The stuff they caught Povetkin with was allowed in competition up until a certain point so before that everyone who used it was roiding when it was legal? That's like saying everyone who drank Coca-Cola up until 2004 was juicing in the Olympics.

Canelo tested positive for a banned substance that is often abused by athletes cutting weight. He also had no business having it in his body, especially when he ate the alleged "meat" a month before he tested positive. Clenbuterol is not an anabolic but has anabolic capabilities.

[SUBZER0ED]

Damn, Miller is a fat mofo! He was fat when he was dirty, now he's freaking enormous! He'll never make a mark in this sport in that kind of shape.

[Kannabis Kid]

I’ll absolutely give you that, but I was making a broader point there about what’s considered acceptable. And since most people aren’t attuned to nuance (esp in the field of drugs!) I chose not to bother delineating between those 2 sets of boxers.

On a side note, can I be sure you’re not saying Canelo’s not culpable here? You haven’t taken the contaminated meat story?

I do believe the contaminated meat because it's a common occurrence in Mexico for them to use unregulated substances in the production of their cattle. There are a lot of things that are pumped into the animals here in the United States as well just you don't know their names yet but they serve the same purpose. People like to think the world revolves around their thought process but different countries have their own regulations and whether you believe it or not it's the truth there is a reason the entire Mexican soccer team tested positive as well and they receive their contamination staying at a fancy hotel.

Canelo tested positive for a banned substance that is often abused by athletes cutting weight. He also had no business having it in his body, especially when he ate the alleged "meat" a month before he tested positive. Clenbuterol is not an anabolic but has anabolic capabilities.

Lol keep telling yourself that buddy Clenbuterol is no worse than things you can get OTC at nutrition shops that aren't on the banned substance yet. Has Canelo ever tested positive for an Anabolic? It falls in line with meldonium it was legal at one point and now it's not where's the fine line that makes it right and wrong? Just because it's now on a list when before it wasn't? Most people on this forum are too dumb or playing ****** when they fail to acknowledge that there are all these designer drugs that aren't banned yet and have their chemistry rearranged but still produce the same outcome. So if it's legal and not banned yet it's ok to take even if it still enhances performance, but as soon as it gets signed on the list it's the biggest PED on the market lmao. Didn't RJJ test positive from supplements? Didn't James Toney test positive for an Anabolic that he said he was taking for a bicep injury? Didn't Mickey Bey set the record for having the most testosterone known to man in Nevada?

[Cypocryphy]

Lol keep telling yourself that buddy Clenbuterol is no worse than things you can get OTC at nutrition shops that aren't on the banned substance yet. Has Canelo ever tested positive for an Anabolic? It falls in line with meldonium it was legal at one point and now it's not where's the fine line that makes it right and wrong? Just because it's now on a list when before it wasn't? Most people on this forum are too dumb or playing ****** when they fail to acknowledge that there are all these designer drugs that aren't banned yet and have their chemistry rearranged but still produce the same outcome. So if it's legal and not banned yet it's ok to take even if it still enhances performance, but as soon as it gets signed on the list it's the biggest PED on the market lmao. Didn't RJJ test positive from supplements? Didn't James Toney test positive for an Anabolic that he said he was taking for a bicep injury? Didn't Mickey Bey set the record for having the most testosterone known to man in Nevada?

I'm not trying to make you feel bad about your idol. I'm just telling the truth, so if the truth hurts, then so be it. That's just how it works. Clenbuterol is an anabolic. It's just not a steroid. But it is an anabolic.

Yes. I am well aware of designer drugs. The thing with designer drugs is that most are not that new. They are just drugs that were developed previously that never made it to the market for one reason or another. Usually, it was due to not being safe or having other drugs being more effective. Doesn't matter anyway because those with the money will get the drugs that are easy to escape testing, such as GH and testosterone (btw: GH is hella unsafe and leads to more deaths than most other drugs; it will catch up to a person).

The problem is that Roy Jones is not fighting anymore. James Toney is not fighting anymore. Bey is not fighting anymore. Also, when Jones and Toney fought, the drug testing was terrible and everyone was using at that point. We started developing anti-doping agencies and more stringent rules to get that **** under control. So pointing out what happened in the past to justify what's happening now is a dumb excuse. In Nevada, people used to pull up on you and shoot you in the face with little or no repercussion. By your reasoning, that should still be going on. (Actually, it still does in Nevada lol. Every time I go there, crazy **** is happening; shootouts at the ATM, **** like that.)

Anyway, pointing out others who cheated doesn't justify continuing to cheat. That's the worst reasoning I've ever heard Canelo has put on so much muscle lately that it's ridiculous, and the fact that he was going to move up to cruiserweight says everything we need to know about whether he's still doping or not.

Canelo is a drug cheat and it's helped him to continue winning his fights. I know it hurts. But the sooner you accept it the better.

[Kannabis Kid]

I'm not trying to make you feel bad about your idol. I'm just telling the truth, so if the truth hurts, then so be it. That's just how it works. Clenbuterol is an anabolic. It's just not a steroid. But it is an anabolic.

Yes. I am well aware of designer drugs. The thing with designer drugs is that most are not that new. They are just drugs that were developed previously that never made it to the market for one reason or another. Usually, it was due to not being safe or having other drugs being more effective. Doesn't matter anyway because those with the money will get the drugs that are easy to escape testing, such as GH and testosterone (btw: GH is hella unsafe and leads to more deaths than most other drugs; it will catch up to a person).

The problem is that Roy Jones is not fighting anymore. James Toney is not fighting anymore. Bey is not fighting anymore. Also, when Jones and Toney fought, the drug testing was terrible and everyone was using at that point. We started developing anti-doping agencies and more stringent rules to get that **** under control. So pointing out what happened in the past to justify what's happening now is a dumb excuse. In Nevada, people used to pull up on you and shoot you in the face with little or no repercussion. By your reasoning, that should still be going on. (Actually, it still does in Nevada lol. Every time I go there, crazy **** is happening; shootouts at the ATM, **** like that.)

Anyway, pointing out others who cheated doesn't justify continuing to cheat. That's the worst reasoning I've ever heard Canelo has put on so much muscle lately that it's ridiculous, and the fact that he was going to move up to cruiserweight says everything we need to know about whether he's still doping or not.

Canelo is a drug cheat and it's helped him to continue winning his fights. I know it hurts. But the sooner you accept it the better.

Clenbuterol isn't an anabolic you dumbass do you know what anabolic means? Since when is clenbuterol a synthetic form of testosterone? If anything it's a stimulant which is nowhere near as bad as what all the fighters I mentioned popped for yet they don't continue to get criticized years later for a minute amount of a ****in stimulant you know like pre-workouts and caffeine. Funny BJS got caught for a stimulant as well yet when they were fighting they were talking about Canelo and Clenbuterol and not about his nasal spray.

You also talk about Canelo putting on muscle like if people can't do that naturally he is an athlete after all, when have you ever seen Canelo out of shape in between fights? So 10-20 lbs of lean mass over time is nothing out of the ordinary until he tests positive for HGH, EPO, or an ANABOLIC steroid you can keep telling yourself whatever you want as to why he keeps beating your favorite fighters. If he put on so much mass how is it that he hasn't failed a test lately? If he was Clenelo he would still be ingesting clenbuterol and would come out dirty right? Name your top 5 favorite fighters high chance that one of them has tested positive for something worse than Canelo.