Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor On Teofimo Lopez: He Was Never Undisputed In The First Place

[richardt]

Josh Taylor simply got lucky, he is overrated ; he cant beat anyone in the top 5 at welterweight he is weight bullying jr. welterweights and refuses to move up because he knows that he is no P4P boxer. Now Josh is backtracking on his promise to move up to 147, I doubt that Taylor beats Amir Khan, Kell Brook or even Conor Benn.


Come on Petero, we know that the 'Tart-Tomato' knows that Teofimo Lopez is a bigger threat than George Kambosos at 140, even with a loss -- that really should be overlooked given the circumstances. But Josh was thrilled that Teo lost, this bum is still celebrating the 'Takeover's' downfall, that is wack!

P.S

Thanks for the like btw. You suck.

None of what you said counters the countless mistakes and over-the-top crap you spew all the time. Josh is a PFP fighter. You don't even know the definition of Pound-for-Pound, ignorant one.

[El_Mero]

Lopez and Kambobos do not have a single title defence to their name, and they live in a division full of killers

neither of them can beat Davis, and neither of them can beat Haney

when Kambosos loses his next fight you will quickly forget about all the dumb fanboy nonsense you wrote in the post above

that lineal bullshlt is just for the fanboys, it is not a title you dumb cvnt

1) triangle theories do not work in boxing

2) the lineal " champ " is often not the best fighter in the division... history records MANY examples proving that fact

was the lineal champ Stevenson the best heavyweight on the planet? ... no, Kovalev was

was the lineal champ Cotto the best middleweight on the planet? ... no, Golovkin was

stop your nonsense... you insist that Lopez was " the man "... and yet, he lost his very next fight to a huge underdog LMAO

lightweight is stacked, you have no idea who the best fighter is at 135... and if you fanboys don't care about true divisional supremacy, then why did you write all of that nonsense in the post above?

Kambosos has ONE world level fight under his belt, and he lives in a division full of killers

stop with the fanboy nonsense kid

example: I am a Canelo fan... but, he needs to fight Benavidez at 168... fcuk that lineal bullshlt... Benavidez was the guy to beat at 168, not the title-holders... I highly doubt that Smith/Plant/Saunders could beat Benavidez at 168, just like I highly doubt that Kambosos can beat Davis/Haney at 135... I just keep it real, not like you fanboys

Lopez and Kambobos do not have a single title defence to their name, and they live in a division full of killers

forget Davis/Haney/Lomachenko... Ryan Garcia will give Kambosos fits

smarten up






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All your bs crying and whining dont change a thing. Gas yourself up all you want. You went from undisputed to lineal to you suck off "killers" davis (who cherry picks) and haney (who cant buy a big fight). Get off their d!cks, kid. It dont matter if nobody had a single defense. They beat the man who had all the titles, period and free belts like haney has and fake belts like davis has dont mean a fcukin thing. Grow up fanboi

[Monty Fisto]

Suleiman called Lopez and Kambosos as undisputed champions multiple times over and over. I will read the meaning of word unequivocal to know if repeating the same exact thing as time and people pass is what it is.... Yup, it IS.

P.S. You must be knew into boxing and need education about WBA multi champ belts. You will wonder that there is no Junior belt named that way by WBA. And no organization fee discounts! And up until last year, there was loooooong wait last time WBA bothered ordering mandatory defenses of Super belt by a regular belt owner as a challenger.

Unequivocal means leaving zero doubt. Does keeping Haney as the WBC champ leaves any doubt? A reasonable person would say yes. Would clearly downgrading Haney remove that doubt? Obviously. Has Sulaiman downgraded Haney? No.

It's self-evident, therefore, that Lopez was not undisputed.

As for being "knew" into boxing... Even if I was, self-evident is self-evident and right is right. I'm well aware of that long ago suggestion from Lennox Lewis to the WBA to free up unified champs from mandatory commitments that led to the super champ mess. So what? It's always the sign of a weak argument to start dredging in the irrelevant or the non-sequitur.

Can't make a decent case for why Haney doesn't have a clear claim as WBC LW champ? Well, what about the WBA? How about sticking to the discussion at hand without trying to drag in whataboutery.

[Monty Fisto]

Josh Taylor simply got lucky, he is overrated ; he cant beat anyone in the top 5 at welterweight he is weight bullying jr. welterweights and refuses to move up because he knows that he is no P4P boxer.

Got lucky in consecutive fights against those considered the best in his division?
How is he a weight bully when he has fought exclusively at light welter and is basically the same height as Jose Ramirez. If he can make the weight, he can make the weight. And what happened to him being lucky? He won because he was lucky or because he is a weight bully? Make your mind up.

Hilarious that you think he 'refuses' to move up? How many times has he fought since he became undisputed?

[aboutfkntime]

All your bs crying and whining dont change a thing. Gas yourself up all you want. You went from undisputed to lineal to you suck off "killers" davis (who cherry picks) and haney (who cant buy a big fight). Get off their d!cks, kid. It dont matter if nobody had a single defense. They beat the man who had all the titles, period and free belts like haney has and fake belts like davis has dont mean a fcukin thing. Grow up fanboi

you are just another shlthead casual-fan

this is how I know that you are just a dumb fanboy...



1) a " super " champ... IS APPOINTED... you fkn dummy

Haney won his title in the ring, Kambosos received a letter in the mail... can you see the difference ?

the WBC super title, and the WBC interim title... ARE FAKE... everyone should know that, even a dumb casual-fan

speaking of things that everyone should know...



2) the title does not make a fighter, a fighter makes the title...

and I gave you a great example proving that in my last post, but I guess you were too busy picking your nose to actually read it

go research Charley Burley... before you embarrass yourself again, by wanking on about titles... every real boxing fan should know that

speaking of things that everyone should know...



3) divisional supremacy is about proving who is the best in the ring... not a trinket gathering contest

you are a window-licking idiot if you think that Kambosos is a better fighter than Haney... NOBODY thinks that

Kambosos in NOT a top 3 lightweight, and there is a current champion in his division... so, how can you call him undisputed ?

look up the word in the dictionary you fkn dummy...

undisputed
[ʌndɪˈspjuːtɪd]
ADJECTIVE

1. not disputed or called in question; accepted.

why does it matter so dearly to you, that Kambosos be referred to as undisputed... when he is clearly not the best in his division?

go on the record for us kid... 1) do you think that Kambosos can beat Davis? ... 2) do you think that Kambosos can beat Haney?

ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS... go on the record... so we can see how you roll, and then laugh at you

stop wanking on about ******ity kid...

real boxing fans know who the best fighters are in every division, it is only you casual-fan dummies who need a road-map






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[aboutfkntime]

Unequivocal means leaving zero doubt. Does keeping Haney as the WBC champ leaves any doubt? A reasonable person would say yes. Would clearly downgrading Haney remove that doubt? Obviously. Has Sulaiman downgraded Haney? No.

It's self-evident, therefore, that Lopez was not undisputed.

As for being "knew" into boxing... Even if I was, self-evident is self-evident and right is right. I'm well aware of that long ago suggestion from Lennox Lewis to the WBA to free up unified champs from mandatory commitments that led to the super champ mess. So what? It's always the sign of a weak argument to start dredging in the irrelevant or the non-sequitur.

Can't make a decent case for why Haney doesn't have a clear claim as WBC LW champ? Well, what about the WBA? How about sticking to the discussion at hand without trying to drag in whataboutery.

you are technically correct, and I am not really arguing with you... Haney is a valid champion, but the main point is...

does anyone really think that Kambosos can beat Haney? ... that is the real point

if not, then... WHO FKN CARES about that undisputed wankery?

FACT: you do not get awarded a 5th title, for collecting the 4 ABC titles... " undisputed " is just a word, like that " lineal " wankery

my boy Canelo needs to fight Benavidez... he only lost his title on the scale, and he is clearly a better SMW than Plant / Saunders / Smith

Canelo actually does hold all of the belts at 168... so he IS undisputed, unlike Kambosos... but who gives a shlt, I still want him to fight Benavidez

missing that fight is unacceptable to me, I will not give Canelo a free pass... and yet... we got fanboy clowns who recently jumped on the Kambosos bandwagon, who desperately NEED to crown their new hero " undisputed " despite the fact that... 1) he only had one real fight, in a division full of killers... 2) he has never defended a title... 3) there is a champion in his own division who is CLEARLY a better fighter... 4) there are multiple fighters who would be favored to beat him if those matchups got signed

this is just typical casual-fan ******ity in my book






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[Ajvar]

Suleiman called Lopez and Kambosos as undisputed champions multiple times over and over. I will read the meaning of word unequivocal to know if repeating the same exact thing as time and people pass is what it is.... Yup, it IS.

P.S. You must be knew into boxing and need education about WBA multi champ belts. You will wonder that there is no Junior belt named that way by WBA. And no organization fee discounts! And up until last year, there was loooooong wait last time WBA bothered ordering mandatory defenses of Super belt by a regular belt owner as a challenger.

Unequivocal means leaving zero doubt. Does keeping Haney as the WBC champ leaves any doubt? A reasonable person would say yes. Would clearly downgrading Haney remove that doubt? Obviously. Has Sulaiman downgraded Haney? No.

It's self-evident, therefore, that Lopez was not undisputed.

As for being "knew" into boxing... Even if I was, self-evident is self-evident and right is right. I'm well aware of that long ago suggestion from Lennox Lewis to the WBA to free up unified champs from mandatory commitments that led to the super champ mess. So what? It's always the sign of a weak argument to start dredging in the irrelevant or the non-sequitur.

Can't make a decent case for why Haney doesn't have a clear claim as WBC LW champ? Well, what about the WBA? How about sticking to the discussion at hand without trying to drag in whataboutery.

I will save this dialogue as an example of writing a wall of text with zero backing argument. You tried so hard to sway away the argument into any field including sophistry but when got beaten there came screaming "I deny everything!" including one of the belts you "ought" to support in undisputed claim. Ha-ha.

[El_Mero]

you are just another shlthead casual-fan

this is how I know that you are just a dumb fanboy...

1) a " super " champ... IS APPOINTED... you fkn dummy

Haney won his title in the ring, Kambosos received a letter in the mail... can you see the difference ?

the WBC super title, and the WBC interim title... ARE FAKE... everyone should know that, even a dumb casual-fan

speaking of things that everyone should know...

2) the title does not make a fighter, a fighter makes the title...

and I gave you a great example proving that in my last post, but I guess you were too busy picking your nose to actually read it

go research Charley Burley... before you embarrass yourself again, by wanking on about titles... every real boxing fan should know that

speaking of things that everyone should know...

3) divisional supremacy is about proving who is the best in the ring... not a trinket gathering contest

you are a window-licking idiot if you think that Kambosos is a better fighter than Haney... NOBODY thinks that

Kambosos in NOT a top 3 lightweight, and there is a current champion in his division... so, how can you call him undisputed ?

look up the word in the dictionary you fkn dummy...

why does it matter so dearly to you, that Kambosos be referred to as undisputed... when he is clearly not the best in his division?

go on the record for us kid... 1) do you think that Kambosos can beat Davis? ... 2) do you think that Kambosos can beat Haney?

ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS... go on the record... so we can see how you roll, and then laugh at you

stop wanking on about ******ity kid...

real boxing fans know who the best fighters are in every division, it is only you casual-fan dummies who need a road-map

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LAST TIME, KID. Get off their d!cks and off mine too weirdo. Kambo has all the belts that matter, especially the wbc who said they consider him UNDISPUTED. you arguing with the organization that makes the belts b!tch. Their word matters not yours or mine for that matter.

And it doesnt matter if you or I think Kambo is or isnt the best of the division, thats an opinion. He has the belts. The belt orgs, especially the wbc because its their belts your b!tching, whining and crying about, are the only ones that matter. Scream and cry about it, idgaf.

Even the wbc's twitter announced teo/kambo as for UNDISPUTED YA IGNORANT FCUKBOI.

Click on the blue bird and Eat a d!ck, crybaby b!tch

[shaheed1972]

LAST TIME, KID. Get off their d!cks and off mine too weirdo. Kambo has all the belts that matter, especially the wbc who said they consider him UNDISPUTED. you arguing with the organization that makes the belts b!tch. Their word matters not yours or mine for that matter.

And it doesnt matter if you or I think Kambo is or isnt the best of the division, thats an opinion. He has the belts. The belt orgs, especially the wbc because its their belts your b!tching, whining and crying about, are the only ones that matter. Scream and cry about it, idgaf.

Even the wbc's twitter announced teo/kambo as for UNDISPUTED YA IGNORANT FCUKBOI.

Click on the blue bird and Eat a d!ck, crybaby b!tch

Kambosos isn't undisputed. The fact that no other sanctioning body recognizes him or they franchise designation as the WBC World Champion verifies that. In order to be undisputed you have to be recognized by all four sanctioning bodies. Also in practical terms the fact that people are on this very page dis*****g it again by definition means he's not undisputed. So matter what you "feel", by boxing standards and rules Kambosos is not undisputed. Side note @aboutfntime who you think would beat who and who feel is the best has nothing to do with undisputed. If the #25 guy won all the titles he's still undisputed. Just like Buster Douglas was when he beat Mike Tyson.

[1hourRun]

None of what you said counters the countless mistakes and over-the-top crap you spew all the time. Josh is a PFP fighter. You don't even know the definition of Pound-for-Pound, ignorant one.

What does Josh Taylor do so well technically speaking that makes him so great? Josh Taylor constantly falls apart at the end of big fights, barely squeaking out controversial wins. I do not see no P4P fighter in Josh Taylor.

Got lucky in consecutive fights against those considered the best in his division?
How is he a weight bully when he has fought exclusively at light welter and is basically the same height as Jose Ramirez. If he can make the weight, he can make the weight. And what happened to him being lucky? He won because he was lucky or because he is a weight bully? Make your mind up.

Hilarious that you think he 'refuses' to move up? How many times has he fought since he became undisputed?

Absolutely, LUCKY. I explained this in my reply to the poster above, Josh Taylor escapes with controversial decisions. It been already documented that Josh Taylor has struggled to make 140.

Terence 'Bud' Crawford moved up immediately to seek greatness after becoming undisputed at jr. welterweight, but Josh, knows that Amir Khan, Kell Brook, and Conor Benn will sleep him if he crosses those lines.