"COTTO will beat PACQUIAO" - Emanuel Steward

[Al Haymon]

Well, there is that to consider, lol. Hey, even Hall of Famers get **** wrong. But to the thread starter, you seem to have something against Shane. I really didn't give a **** about it, until I had some down time to see how you post. Tell me, sir, do you think SSM is, or is not, a first ballot Hall of Famer?

I do not thnk that Shane is a first ballot HoFer. I think Shane's resume is overrated.

It is my opinion that because of Shane's personality, and his fight style, he gets much undeserved latitude. About his resume, and his steroid use.

Examples:

Resume: Between the first Oscar win, and the Margarito win was a span of nine years. That's a long time. The only significant win he had during that time was the second Oscar fight. The only problem is that many feel he lost that fight, and the victory is tainted anyway because of steroid abuse.
I invite anyone to tell me who Shane beat during that near-decade stretch.


Steroids: I have seen many posters and fans claim that "Shane passed a lie detector test" related to BALCO, simply because SM said it. Who administered this lie detector test? Not the authorities. There were no indictments. Additionally, Shane had told the public one thing: 'I never used steroids", while telling the grand jury another: "i injected some stuff, and rubbed some creams, etc." He was duplicitous on this whole issue. And it never would have come out if it were not for the leaks (Mark Fainaru Wada, etc).


That is my SM perspective.

[Wreckless]

I wonder what Steward will be saying when Pac beats Cotto.
Maybe somewhere along the lines of:
"He can do everything, that what makes him so complicated. Feet, hands, uppercut, jab, body punches, head movement, footwork, everything. He's got it all."
Just like what he said after the Hatton fight.

[Burner]

I agree, with everything he said, except for Manny not having head movement, Manny have decent head movement!!!!

No he doesnt...

Its easy to look like Pernell Whitaker aginst a weight drained Oscar...a slow bumy diaz...and a hard head hatton.

How did his head look aginst JMM both times...oh yeah thats right JMM was smacking it around.

[adrsan84]

I agree with Steward, I'm leaning towards Cotto. I have 1 million points on Cotto over Manny, reply here and PM me to verify if you're down.

[fabzmm]

I do not thnk that Shane is a first ballot HoFer. I think Shane's resume is overrated.

It is my opinion that because of Shane's personality, and his fight style, he gets much undeserved latitude. About his resume, and his steroid use.

Examples:

Resume: Between the first Oscar win, and the Margarito win was a span of nine years. That's a long time. The only significant win he had during that time was the second Oscar fight. The only problem is that many feel he lost that fight, and the victory is tainted anyway because of steroid abuse.
I invite anyone to tell me who Shane beat during that near-decade stretch.


Steroids: I have seen many posters and fans claim that "Shane passed a lie detector test" related to BALCO, simply because SM said it. Who administered this lie detector test? Not the authorities. There were no indictments. Additionally, Shane had told the public one thing: 'I never used steroids", while telling the grand jury another: "i injected some stuff, and rubbed some creams, etc." He was duplicitous on this whole issue. And it never would have come out if it were not for the leaks (Mark Fainaru Wada, etc).


That is my SM perspective.

Shane is not getting blasted because he is the uncle tom. Not trying to be racist but this is truth.

Shane Mosley has been documented to admitting to taking steroids (the cream) but more importantly EPO which cyclists use to increase stamina. This is BLATANT cheating and there is no way around it. Shane has lied about roiding repeatably to the media when grand jury testimony says otherwise.

[illmatickid]

The thing is.. when several times emmanuel steward would analyze fighters and predict things in pre-fight commentary and it would come true midway thru the fight.. sometimes i think its insane how good he is in analyzing boxers...

so..he might be right...

[hugh grant]

Well lets hoping Roacha and Pac hear what Steward has to say, and then go to work correcting the mistakes.
Talks a good fight doesnt he?

[aether]

Calm down. I said that I don't like catchweights. You said the same.

Take a deep breath


The reason that I don't like belts being exchanged when the contracted weight varies from the class limit is because belts have been taken off the table for precisely that reason. It creates an imbalance or inconsistency over time. I just think that the proliferation of catchweights undermines the integrity of the weight classes, and/or reinforces the misguided sentiment that the (excessive) weight classes are super-important.

You had Corrales/Castillo 2 & 3, Corrales/Casamayor, Guzman/Campbell, etc. All of those had problems over just a few pounds.

catchweights are there for a reason. it makes mega fights like this one possible. this fight is bigger than any belt anyways. p4p fights does not need any titles..