After watching boxing for several decades, why fight any tough opponents?

[Nash out]

That's a pretty accurate description of Raymi's fighting style. Ali was a character, he'd fight the same Filipino or ****ladeshi construction worker 2-3 times in some dimly lit gym racking up those KO wins.

Off topic but I was talking to someone who was friends with Edwin Valero's wife. I always thought he commit suicide after killing his wife but the wife's friend was convinced it was the Venezuelan authorities. Who knows...anyway, I digress.

I love character's like that, boxing benefits from them. I'm a big Babic fan, he just goes out and gives everything he has in a wild and crazy manner. Pure entertainment guys like that. Nash out.

[Smash]

True, although it’s not out of the realm of possibility that a promoter can move some chess pieces around for you to get you a strap through an easy route. Say a vacant title vs an easy opponent.

yes, u could be a belt hostage holder type, but if u unify and hold multiple belts in theory you are fighting the toughest guys available, you have to be both good enough & have a good promoter to make the fights too

[Marchegiano]

Bud I been saying we kiss the fighter's asses too much for over a decade now.

Yup, no reason to make good fights anymore. We all know it. We all still protect our guys doe. Everyone's main squeeze always makes perfect sense, and, because they make sense that alone justifies their ****ty products.

Blame Floyd probably but I'm not even sure. He's maybe a symptom too.

At the end of the day, boxing fans are an incredibly reasonable customer actually. I'm very jealous. Here I am, having to make high quality products and such because I can't sell a shit sandwich while acknowledging it's a shyt sandwich but making that okay because I got no beef because beef's overpriced now . To be clear, I don't sell food goods, but you get my point, a product is a product and boxing fans accept a ****ty product all the time, and, every single ****ing time you try to check them on this they tell you their guy has a reasonable excuse.

Every, single, ****ing, time.

I get being a fan of a dude, but always agreeing? That's crazy. Y'all're ****ing nuts.

Canelo fans always agree with Nelo

Fury fans always agree with Fury

Joshua fans always agree with Joshua

Wilder fans agree with Wilder, to the point where they ****ing embarrass me.

It gets old after a while. Oh look, ****Em agrees with Joshua, Denium agrees with Fury, and 1hour agrees with Wilder, while Thunglife holds court over the Canelo show....always. And we, they too, ***** about boxers not fighting hard fights. Wonder, when you can get customers like them, why that is.

No offense to any mentioned, I mentioned because I likes youse. Everyone one of you dudes are the funniest of your kind.

[Boxing fan1981]

Another fighter who racked up wins against soft or washed up competition was the Danish pastry "Super" Brian Nielsen. He almost eclipsed Marciano's streak but was upended by ****y "Raging Bull" Ryan. The Danish fighter suffered cramps and dehydration late in a fight he was dominating and ended up getting TKO'd. Wonder how we would have celebrated Nielsen had he won and promptly retired with a 50-0 record.

50-0 is entirely possible, if you go the route I’m suggesting. You don’t have to be Floyd.

[Boxing fan1981]

yes, u could be a belt hostage holder type, but if u unify and hold multiple belts in theory you are fighting the toughest guys available, you have to be both good enough & have a good promoter to make the fights too

Agreed. A unification would weed out the pretenders. This would be a route without chasing a belt. I think you can go far without a belt, just keep looking spectacular and knocking people out and fans, the dumb ones, will fall in love.

[sallyField]

Ali raymi no blueprint and thats realer than real deal sally field and now all you hoogers and hoes no how i be feelin yo say word

[The Big Dunn]

I’ve noticed fighters can become hype machines and make millions if they get matched up with cans and taxi drivers for a majority of their career. Build your name by viciously knocking out opponents.

Berlanga, Benavidez and Tank Davis are going this route. GGG and Lemiux did this as well. You can look amazing, get fans invested in your career and you’ve got yourself a boxing career. Sure you’ll lose when you eventually have to fight a legit boxer, but over the course of many years you’ve made more money than you could have working a day job and could probably retire in your 30’s.

Why take on tough opponents in your 20’s or even early 30’s?

There is no glory in fighting tough, because you’ll just start collecting haters that pick at your resume, point out fights where you looked like dog **** against a tough opponent, and you won’t win at convincing them, as they take to social media and blast you as a fighter.

Haters will ask you to fight this guy after you beat the other guy who was supposed to beat you. And after you beat them all, they’ll start asking you to beat the bigger guys so that eventually down the line, somewhere there will be a guy that can finally take you out and beat you. After this loss you’ll finally go away or so they hope.

Not saying you don’t have a point but it seems you’re forcing things into this narrative that really don’t belong.

For example, Tank. Weren’t His last 2 fights exciting, back and forth quality fights that gave you your money’s worth?

Could it be that you and others negatively pre-judged Barrios and Cruz based solely on the fact Tank was fighting them?

Don’t boxers that win tougher than expected fights deserve credit for winning a tough fight?

[Boxing fan1981]

Bud I been saying we kiss the fighter's asses too much for over a decade now.

Yup, no reason to make good fights anymore. We all know it. We all still protect our guys doe. Everyone's main squeeze always makes perfect sense, and, because they make sense that alone justifies their ****ty products.

Blame Floyd probably but I'm not even sure. He's maybe a symptom too.

At the end of the day, boxing fans are an incredibly reasonable customer actually. I'm very jealous. Here I am, having to make high quality products and such because I can't sell a shit sandwich while acknowledging it's a shyt sandwich but making that okay because I got no beef because beef's overpriced now . To be clear, I don't sell food goods, but you get my point, a product is a product and boxing fans accept a ****ty product all the time, and, every single ****ing time you try to check them on this they tell you their guy has a reasonable excuse.

Every, single, ****ing, time.

I get being a fan of a dude, but always agreeing? That's crazy. Y'all're ****ing nuts.

Canelo fans always agree with Nelo

Fury fans always agree with Fury

Joshua fans always agree with Joshua

Wilder fans agree with Wilder, to the point where they ****ing embarrass me.

It gets old after a while. Oh look, ****Em agrees with Joshua, Denium agrees with Fury, and 1hour agrees with Wilder, while Thunglife holds court over the Canelo show....always. And we, they too, ***** about boxers not fighting hard fights. Wonder, when you can get customers like them, why that is.

No offense to any mentioned, I mentioned because I likes youse. Everyone one of you dudes are the funniest of your kind.

Agreed, but I also feel like that dude that just goes out to fight whoever ends up getting the shaft.

Look at Oscar, he fought everyone in my opinion, and finished with many losses. What does he get? Yea he was good BUT BUT BUT. Because of his losses his legacy is diminished and not as highly regarded as those who were smarter and a lot more careful. He could have gone 50 or 60 and 0 and be considered a top 10 ATG.

If you go the Oscar route fans will be thankless and a only a small minority will give you credit.

[Boxing fan1981]

Not saying you don’t have a point but it seems you’re forcing things into this narrative that really don’t belong.

For example, Tank. Weren’t His last 2 fights exciting, back and forth quality fights that gave you your money’s worth?

Could it be that you and others negatively pre-judged Barrios and Cruz based solely on the fact Tank was fighting them?

Don’t boxers that win tougher than expected fights deserve credit for winning a tough fight?

Fair post, let me play devils advocate, if I’m an average boxer and I pick this easy system, and instead of knocking out an opponent in the 3rd round, as expected, it’s a cherry-pick gone wrong and it turns out to be a barn burner, Ward vs Gatti style, is this now ok because I’ve entertained?

[MulaKO]

Another fighter who racked up wins against soft or washed up competition was the Danish pastry "Super" Brian Nielsen. He almost eclipsed Marciano's streak but was upended by ****y "Raging Bull" Ryan. The Danish fighter suffered cramps and dehydration late in a fight he was dominating and ended up getting TKO'd. Wonder how we would have celebrated Nielsen had he won and promptly retired with a 50-0 record.

I remember him and all the bullchit talk that came with him
He was a super middleweight if I’m not mistaken
Honestly though , he was was one of the guys you knew would never fight anyone worthy and so did his team
Most profit , the least effort