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  • RoadMan94
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    #201
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    The 12.5 million was over 8x Wilders highest pay day . Not only that Wilder wasn’t generating the majority interest he wasn’t a draw . Fury can’t do a stadium fight without Whyte ,you’ll see when they cancel those Manchester plans because it will flop or won’t meet expectations .
    Lol. Fury vs Joyce sells old Trafford , Cardiff or Wembley. You are just far too deluded and bias to allow yourself to be honest. Keep it moving kiddo. You sound ridiculous.

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    • Blackstarr
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      #202
      Originally posted by 4truth

      AJ makes ****** money. AJ can afford to be ****** with the split, there's more than enough left over.

      Fury isn't blessed like that. He has to actually pay a percentage that makes sense.
      Well the fact AJ earns ****** money didn’t stop him from coughing up a 50-50 split for the proposed Fury fight though did it? So why are all these people quoting Whyte’s purses all of a sudden?

      That’s the name of the game now and Fury should play by the same rules..if he can’t offer Ruiz or Whyte comparable figures with a 80/20 split, then obviously he needs to accept a lower split to get these fights done, champion or not. Especially when you consider that the difference between what Fury would earn without Wilder or AJ and what Whyte has been earning recently, probably isn’t that big a gap.

      Saying £7.5m is greedy when Whyte has been making £4m without the so-called top 3 just doesn’t make any sense. Anyway have a look at this Warren interview and the comments below..it looks like Warren/Arum aren’t fooling anyone, apart from the diehards on here who clearly aren’t representative of widespread opinion:
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      Last edited by Blackstarr; 12-29-2021, 02:44 PM.

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      • Bronx2245
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        #203
        Originally posted by REDEEMER

        Fury vs Helenius in Vegas with no title at stake will show us how popular he is . He’s trying to build his reputation there the problem is he’s not that mindset to stick with it he’s not going to do that long term before he quits or temporarily leaves again .by choice or a loss .
        Helenius won't do as well. Ruiz knocked out Joshua! His fan base now knows what's possible. He has a much bigger fan base too!

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          #204
          Originally posted by RoadMan94

          Lol. Fury vs Joyce sells old Trafford , Cardiff or Wembley. You are just far too deluded and bias to allow yourself to be honest. Keep it moving kiddo. You sound ridiculous.
          Hes declined Joyce ? I’m not from the U.K but I doubt even one on here says Joyce is more known then Whyte . Anything else ?
          Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-29-2021, 02:41 PM.

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            #205
            Originally posted by Bronx2245
            Helenius won't do as well. Ruiz knocked out Joshua! His fan base now knows what's possible. He has a much bigger fan base too!
            I had one poster on here a few hours ago telling me how Helenius would knock out Whyte ? Not knowing he lost already to him . Like I said you are going to have that “special” group on here fishing for excuses to legitimize that fight if if it happens .

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            • Bronx2245
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              #206
              Originally posted by REDEEMER

              I had one poster on here a few hours ago telling me how Helenius would knock out Whyte ? Not knowing he lost already to him . Like I said you are going to have that “special” group on here fishing for excuses to legitimize that fight if if it happens .
              I don't think Helenius should get the fight over Whyte, but I do understand that Whyte is too expensive. Ruiz or Joyce would cost less, and would sell very well!

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                #207
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                Hes declined Joyce ? I’m not from the U.K but I doubt even one on here says Joyce is more known then Whyte . Anything else ?
                Yeah not sure what the hell that guy is on about. One must also question whether Joyce would even fight Fury for no belt, as opposed to waiting around and petitioning the WBC to fight Whyte for it in the event it becomes vacant. Clearly not, given Arum hasn’t even included him in the conversation​​​​​.

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                • Blackstarr
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                  #208
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  I don't think Helenius should get the fight over Whyte, but I do understand that Whyte is too expensive. Ruiz or Joyce would cost less, and would sell very well!
                  Ruiz will not cost less..he has already turned down £4m to fight Whyte, which is what Arum is offering here against Fury for a far riskier fight, and Ruiz already made $7m+ fighting AJ for 3 belts on the line when he had no name in the first fight. What makes you think he won’t demand this at the very minimum, and probably more now that he has a bigger name?

                  Joyce would indeed cost less, but I genuinely don’t see him fighting Fury for no belt and evidently so as it looks like he’s not even in the conversation for Arum.

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Blackstarr

                    Yeah not sure what the hell that guy is on about. One must also question whether Joyce would even fight Fury for no belt, as opposed to waiting around and petitioning the WBC to fight Whyte for it in the event it becomes vacant. Clearly not, given Arum hasn’t even included him in the conversation​​​​​.
                    Joyce is the WBO mandatory as far as I know .

                    Joyce fighting Fury would still be a domestic fight even in the U.S . I’d say Joyce probably wait until all the smoke clears if no title is on the line but a potential Fury win vs waiting is something I don’t think he would not at least think about . Either way the way posters are fishing on here to make it out that a Whyte U.K fight is not important is hilarious .

                    Joyce is to dangerous for them to bring him up voluntarily .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-29-2021, 03:00 PM.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      I don't think Helenius should get the fight over Whyte, but I do understand that Whyte is too expensive. Ruiz or Joyce would cost less, and would sell very well!
                      They would lose more money catering to Ruiz or Helenius in a smaller fight that won't sell even close to a Whyte one . In Ruiz case he’s going to want more then 5 million and if they give him it it makes them look foolish where they wouldn’t with Whyte .

                      At the end of the day the object or goal is not to stage any Whyte fight so that’s why you see the offer they came up with .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-29-2021, 03:06 PM.

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