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  • #71
    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
    Browne’s style is not brawling or come forward though. Beterbiev moves and hits like a tank, so yeah he will look less than stellar vs movers. He didn’t look overly good vs Gvozdyk either. He looked “beatable”. And yet he sent Gvozdyk into retirement, who himself sent Adonis Stevenson into retirement.
    Hell, Gvozdyk sent Stevenson to the ICU!
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    • #72
      Originally posted by tokon View Post

      That's how I saw it too. He made Browne quit. Thanks
      That's generally what he does... We don't talk about KO's with Beterbiev... We talk about obliteration, submission and quitting ...

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      • #73
        Originally posted by rrayvez View Post
        This site is funny. Ward makes a comment about Beterbiev showing some vulnerability and Canelo fans lose their feminine minds over it. That complex of knowing that canelo looks for vulnerability is really eating away at them. Last I saw, Canelo hasn’t even mentioned Beterbiev as an option. He’s fighting Manute Bol next so why get emotionally and defensive over Wards opinion on Beterbiev?You only make yourself look like an ass criticizing the guy who faced the real version of the Krusher. Not some washed up damaged goods version.
        Ward lost the first fight. He may have eked out a draw. Tony weeks failed miserably as a ref in the second. Those low blows should have prompted a halt in the action, a warning to Ward and five minutes to Kovalev to recover at the most. At the least, Weeks should have halted the action and called a knock down against Kovalev for an eight count. Stopping the fight and ruling it a TKO was irresponsible. And just when people were speculating that maybe Ward was the real deal and that he would defend the belts against the other top guys in the LHW division, he fucking retired.
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        • #74
          Originally posted by Boxing Beast View Post
          Odd he would say that. He himself never fought anyone based off of that. He was also never undisputed either though. Fighters today seem to have more courage than the Ward's and Bradley's of yesteryear's, I wish Roy Jones Jr. and Big George were still the color commentators. They actually had fantastic careers and didn't seem to hate on others boxers as much. Ward and Bradley need to accept who the were as fighters and be proud of it, they were both decent to great boxers at times.Jealousy is ugly.
          How is that jealousy? He's a commentator...it's his job. Explain the courage comment?? Ward beat everyone they put in front of him, including the ones he wasn't supposed to beat. You may or may not remember this um SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT tournament that he won which included more Europeans than Americans?? Yeah you're right about the courage part....NOT

          Make sure you know what you're talking about before you post. Boxers from the past had WAY more courage than fighters of today. Guys are scared to lose the 0 these days. If they weren't we wouldn't have so many champions per weight class. These guys aren't anxious to fight each other.

          Demitrius Andrade for example. Everyone makes it seem as if the guy isn't fighting anyone. This is because no one wants to fight him. High risk Low reward. THE GAME is totally different now.

          Tim Bradley. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND???? This boy wasn't scared to get the right with anyone and I wasn't even a huge fan of his. Dude you must be a novice.
          Last edited by NCBoxingPro; 12-23-2021, 03:05 PM.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            Ward: Bute Needs To Fight An A Level Figher Like Andre Dirrell To Get A Shot Against Me

            Ward’s management had a deal made with Sartison’s team, but they were unable to go ahead with it after HBO rejected the fight.

            Andre Ward vs Marco Antonio Periban ... Fight is 70% done according to Ward

            What was embarassing was that @ss whipping Carl Froch put on Bute. Now that's embarrassing. Hey what happened to Froch when he fought Ward? What happened to Kessler? Ward wanted the rematch because Kessler was one of the top guys. Bute fans remember....Bute was SCARED to fight in the super six or does anyone remember that?

            Fighting B and C levels fighters did not prepare Bute too well for the Carl Froch fight huh? How was that Bute career after Froch. LOL

            I can't believe someone even brought Bute into the mix. That right there is HILLARIOUS!!!
            Last edited by NCBoxingPro; 12-23-2021, 03:12 PM.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Boxing fan1981 View Post

              Definitely jealousy.

              I feel Ward is laying the ground work to discredit Artur. …because he knows an eventual matchup with Canelo is on the horizon.

              Roy Jones obliterates these two in commentary, and you never had the sense that Roy threw shade at anyone, though he could have been tempted to do so, given he’s one of the baddest to ever lace them up.
              NO it ain't. Canelo hasn't even mentioned his name. WTF

              Can the man be a commentator? You do understand that it his opinion and you're not going to agree with everything he says? How much do you know about the guy Canelo's moving up to fight at Light heavy?? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. He's doing it only because he perceives it to be an easy belt to win.
              Last edited by NCBoxingPro; 12-23-2021, 04:05 PM.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                Hell, Gvozdyk sent Stevenson to the ICU!
                Stevenson drinking through a straw now, and remember how Ward actually ducked Stevenson at 68 and at 75. Wards fanboys defending his cowardice going into retirement in shame after that low blow fest refuse to acknowledge he retired go avoid his two mandos Beterbiev and Bivol while having to contend with Stevenson who held the lineal title before Gvodzyk made him a vegetable. .
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                • #78
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

                  Ward lost the first fight. He may have eked out a draw. Tony weeks failed miserably as a ref in the second. Those low blows should have prompted a halt in the action, a warning to Ward and five minutes to Kovalev to recover at the most. At the least, Weeks should have halted the action and called a knock down against Kovalev for an eight count. Stopping the fight and ruling it a TKO was irresponsible. And just when people were speculating that maybe Ward was the real deal and that he would defend the belts against the other top guys in the LHW division, he fucking retired.
                  we can go back and forth about the controversy of Ward vs Kovalev and I can mention the controversy that has surrounded scoring in multiple canelo fights, but that’s not the point of my post. My point that you put in bold was that Ward fought the best version of Kovalev that existed. The feared version that was running though his competition in dominant fashion. Not the 36 yr old version that was 3-3 in his last 6 and stopped twice. Canelo wouldn’t have dared to step in the ring with Kovalev if he was the same guy he was leading into the first fight with Ward. Canelo doesn’t face guys coming off impressive runs, he faces guys after they show vulnerability that makes him sense there’s less risk.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by NCBoxingPro View Post

                    How is that jealousy? He's a commentator...it's his job. Explain the courage comment?? Ward beat everyone they put in front of him, including the ones he wasn't supposed to beat. You may or may not remember this um SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT tournament that he won which included more Europeans than Americans?? Yeah you're right about the courage part....NOT

                    Make sure you know what you're talking about before you post. Boxers from the past had WAY more courage than fighters of today. Guys are scared to lose the 0 these days. If they weren't we wouldn't have so many champions per weight class. These guys aren't anxious to fight each other.

                    Demitrius Andrade for example. Everyone makes it seem as if the guy isn't fighting anyone. This is because no one wants to fight him. High risk Low reward. THE GAME is totally different now.

                    Tim Bradley. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND???? This boy wasn't scared to get the right with anyone and I wasn't even a huge fan of his. Dude you must be a novice.
                    He is trying to downgrade the accomplishments of present fighters that are doing more than he could durning his career. That how it come off as jealousy. I was saying fighters like George Foreman and Roy Jones seem to have more courage. It’s debatable if you want to say Bradley and Ward were more courageous than Foreman and Jones Jr. go ahead make that argument. I’m sure I’ll enjoy it. Yes I saw the tournament, didn’t see anyone 16-0 16kos in it, didn’t even see an undisputed champ crowned. Did you catch the head butt that one the tournament? Now that’s skills, bet he trained Marcus Browne on how to do it.
                    I’m well aware of what I’m talking about and Andrade is a fool and has been one for a long time that’s how he got to where he is. Bad sport at the Olympics, that alone cost him millions. Pulling out on Charlo, ducking Lara, hiring Jay Z as a manager,
                    then hiring an English promoter. All terrible choices, but hey he is worth 7 million so I guess it was worth it.” He do it for the dough, me I do it for the love” - DMX. To each their own, he’s a rich fool, I give him that. But so called ducked fighters don’t pull out or duck themselves. At least not in my book.
                    Bradley did fight the fights of his day I’ll give him that. Famously said he wanted to kill himself when he couldn’t compete with them, so he may be jealous of those who can compete on the highest level. He wasn’t a KO artist, he never was undisputed, he didn’t jump multiple weight classes, he was amazing for as average as he was. The generation before was Floyd’s, Oscar’s, pernells now we got Crawford’s, Taylor’s, Spence Jr. . Ward and Bradley were lows in boxing history not highlights. I’m glad your a huge fan of them though, they need them.
                    Last edited by Boxing Beast; 12-24-2021, 02:47 PM.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by SteveM View Post

                      corrected for you. Happy Christmas!

                      Very dangerous fight for Canelo but lets see it!
                      :lol:

                      Nice!

                      But those same guys that felt they really won had the “power” to ensure it never went to the cards. Why aren’t we asking them the hard questions?

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