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  • #81
    Great way to underminine your own fighter lmao..

    He was better off saying cuz he was black lol

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    • #82
      The way Floyd makes everything about him is concerning but also very on brand

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      • #83
        Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post

        See what hate makes you do....

        Lol
        the thing is you're just contradicting points that I never made LOL

        I never talked about Rigo in my post, never stated that it was a fair fight, or a great win for Loma on this forum. Maybe I just had a laugh for all the demographic that picked Rigo and claimed in the past that Loma was ducking him.

        I never said Commey was undefeated or a great win, I said he was ranked higher than Cruz at 135 on both Boxrec and ring period
        YEt Cruz became the best thing since sliced bread because Lord Tank struggled with his short a'ss.

        Yes Commey lost some fights but that's what happens when you fight someone with a pulse like Teo or Loma, Cruz never fought guys of that Caliber, neither did Tank.

        Defending undefeated cherry pickers and bashing fighters who lost is a collective mental disease in boxing at this point. Haney and co bashing Téo for losing but at least je stepped.up and this before his 15th fight.

        LSC being a career batamweight is just a fact for someone who knows his boxing and yes he won a featherweight title versus Abner mares who is?? Dum dum dum a career batamweight himself and that probably why they also picked him for Tank at some point lol LSC is average at best at 130 until proven otherwise.

        I'm not hating Tank but I surely hate the.circus around him and the TMT cherry picking for sure.
        Tank is on a bum tour worst than GGG and GGG at least had the excuse that 160 was trash in his era and finally fought Nelo twice.

        But hey business wise it's working they gotcha huh?

        How can someone be a Featherweight from 2015 to 2019 (8 fights) and be considered a "career" Bantamweight? Only if you want to make it fit your narrative! LSC is defined by his Frampton and Mares fights @ 126! If Tank fighting him at 130 is a cherry pick, what was Loma vs. Rigo? I​​​​ don't see the same level of hate coming from you and others when that happened!

        How convenient to forget Commey lost to Robert Easter Jr.! Yeah, that caliber! Yeah he stepped up, and got knocked out twice! He is what he is!

        How can we hate on Haney, when Haney put himself in line for Loma, and it was Loma who decided to go another direction? Not once, but twice? Commey was not necessary, since Loma was WBC #1! See that's OK, but Tank fighting Issac Cruz is a cherry pick!

        I want the BIG fights too, but I'm tired of all these folks with very selective outrage!

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        • #84
          Originally posted by daggum View Post

          nah hes dumb, its just narcissim and a society that rewards it. just like trump. if trump wasnt born with money and floyd with great talent(and guidance) they would be homeless guys screaming they are jesus on the side of the road
          Why do you continue to inject our former President into every conversation? TDS is real with you. And to correct the record….he took 413 million inheritance and has grown it to a net worth of 2.5 BILLION. I’m sorry but I think I’ll take the advice from someone you say is “dumb” on how to make money than an envious, anonymous poster that obviously has trouble rubbing two nickels together by comparison.

          How often have you had to make payroll in your life of accomplishments?
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          • #85
            Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post

            See what hate makes you do....

            Lol
            the thing is you're just contradicting points that I never made LOL

            I never talked about Rigo in my post, never stated that it was a fair fight, or a great win for Loma on this forum. Maybe I just had a laugh for all the demographic that picked Rigo and claimed in the past that Loma was ducking him.

            I never said Commey was undefeated or a great win, I said he was ranked higher than Cruz at 135 on both Boxrec and ring period
            YEt Cruz became the best thing since sliced bread because Lord Tank struggled with his short a'ss.

            Yes Commey lost some fights but that's what happens when you fight someone with a pulse like Teo or Loma, Cruz never fought guys of that Caliber, neither did Tank.

            Defending undefeated cherry pickers and bashing fighters who lost is a collective mental disease in boxing at this point. Haney and co bashing Téo for losing but at least je stepped.up and this before his 15th fight.

            LSC being a career batamweight is just a fact for someone who knows his boxing and yes he won a featherweight title versus Abner mares who is?? Dum dum dum a career batamweight himself and that probably why they also picked him for Tank at some point lol LSC is average at best at 130 until proven otherwise.

            I'm not hating Tank but I surely hate the.circus around him and the TMT cherry picking for sure.
            Tank is on a bum tour worst than GGG and GGG at least had the excuse that 160 was trash in his era and finally fought Nelo twice.

            But hey business wise it's working they gotcha huh?

            Interested in your thought on this...

            DiBella Talks Lomachenko Being Kambosos WBO Mandatory

            Promoter Lou DiBella says his fighter undisputed lightweight champion George Kambosos Jr. doesn’t have to fight Vasily Lomachenko next if the WBO orders him to defend against the #1 ranked contender right away. DiBella states that if the WBO orders Kambosos to fight his mandatory Lomachenko (16-2, 11 KOs), they can petition the sanctioning body to allow them to fight someone else next for a “significant fight.

            The promoter also says there’s a period when the mandatory is due after it’s ordered by the World Boxing Organization, which may allow Kambosos to slip a fight in between that before facing Lomachenko. What’s clear from listening to DiBella speak, he doesn’t sound eager about letting Kambosos face Lomachenko next. Indeed, DiBella sounds like he’s totally against that idea, and it’s pretty obvious why. What we saw from Lomachenko last Saturday night in dismantling former IBF lightweight champion Richard Commey to win an easy one-sided 12 round unanimous decision, it’s logical to assume that Loma would do the same thing to Kambosos.

            Kambosos Can Do Whatever He Wants

            DiBella believes that his fighter Kambosos is in the driver’s seat, sitting like an emperor of sorts, being able to pick & choose whoever fighter he wants for his next fight.

            That attitude will immediately filter out Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis as one of the options for Kambosos’ next fight because his promoters, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Leonard Ellerbe, aren’t going to allow their #1 cash-cow travel to Australia and take their chances with the judges. “He’s the emperor, he can do whatever he likes right now, and he wants to fight in Australia. He’s made that very clear to his whole team,” said promoter Lou DiBella to Fighthype when asked about George Kambosos Jr. wanting to fight in Australia next.

            “Let’s wait for them to do it, and then when they say there’s a mandatory, there’s a time period for when you have to do a mandatory,” DiBella said in reacting to being told that #1 WBO ranked contender Lomachenko is expected to be made the mandatory by the WBO for lightweight champion Kambosos.

            You can also petition to have a fight in between if it’s another significant fight. There are a lot of things that can happen [that will allow Kambosos to fight someone else rather than Lomachenko next]. “I’m adept at dealing with the rules, and we’ll handle it. Look, Lomachenko has always certainly been on a shortlist of “He’s ultimately going to decide who, when, and where, honestly,” DiBella said of Kambosos. “He keeps reiterating that he wants the biggest fights. “He doesn’t want just an ordinary opponent, and he’s ultimately going to decide,” said DiBella about Kambosos.

            The Australian is a great talker, but he’s not going to talk his way to a victory over Lomachenko, and DiBella knows that. He realizes the limitations Kambosos has. Hence, he’s talking about ways to swerve the fight with Kambosos so he can fight someone else next.

            DiBella Says Kambosos To Keep Improving

            Whether Kambosos can keep improving or not is debatable, as he’s limited in the power department, and he’ll never be as skilled as someone like Lomachenko. For Kambosos to have a shot at beating Lomachenko, he’s going to need to study him and try and come up with the ideal game plan to defeat his style in the same way he did to defeat Teofimo Lopez last November.

            In Teofimo’s case, he was injured, fighting with an esophagus and lung problem against Kambosos, which has been diagnosed by a doctor.

            Moreover, Teofimo was weight drained for the fight, and his trainer sounded lost in his career, failing to come up with the proper instructions to offset what Kambosos was doing during their battle on November 27th. “One thing about George, and I’m doing to say I’m guilty also,” DiBella continued about Kambosos. “This kid believed in himself and knew he was capable of this the whole time.

            “I think he feels that the world didn’t see what he saw, and maybe I’m a little bit guilty too. I knew he was a terrific fighter, but to go in there and dominate on the biggest stage at the biggest moment of his life under difficult circumstances, I give him all the credit in the world, man.

            “He did something magical in a fight that was delayed, postponed, and he had to train under unusual circumstances,” DiBella said of Kambosos. “He trained in Australia most of the time without his #1 trainer with him with limited sparring because of where he was.

            “He always believed, and his dad believed that he was destined for greatness. Maybe the rest of us were a little bit guilty of taking it with a grain of salt, but when you’re out there, and you can prove.

            “When you are as confident as George and have that self-belief, and you tell everyone exactly what you’re going to do, and then you do it. That’s pretty awesome.

            “The sky’s the limit for this kid,” DiBella said about Kambosos. “I think he’s going to keep getting better, and he’s going to keep rising to the occasion, so I’m excited to see what’s ahead for George Kambosos. DiBella is probably right that Kambosos will keep improving as a fighter, but will it be enough for him to defeat Lomachenko, WBC lightweight champion Devin Haney, WBA champ Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis, or Ryan Garcia? I don’t know.

            With Kambosos saying he wants his next fight in Australia, he’ll likely get the benefit of the doubt for any close rounds against those fighters. Still, if he faces Ryan or Tank Davis, those guys have the power to take the judges out of the equation entirely.

            As far as Kambosos winning by decision, Haney is the most beatable guy for him in a 12 round fight because he’s chinny, and loses rounds when he’s pressured, hit hard, and forced to deal with a fighter that lets his hands go.

            Lomachenko’s skills will make him a nightmare for Kambosos. You can argue why his promoter DiBella is outwardly saying that they don’t have to necessarily fight him next if the World Boxing Organization orders the Kambosos-Lomachenko fight next.

            For DiBella to be talking about that openly last Saturday night, it suggests that he wants to steer Kambosos around Lomachenko.

            DiBella understands what Kambosos would be up against if he were to face a talent like Lomachenko, and he’s likely going to try and avoid the Ukrainian at all costs.

            We’ll likely see Kambosos fighting Haney or Ryan Garcia next for good money in a stadium fight in Australia. It’s doubtful that Kambosos will draw 80,o00 fans for his next battle in his home country, though.

            That’s Kambosos dreaming out loud when he talks those crazy numbers for his next fight in Australia. Still, he should bring in a respectable number of and, particularly if he faces someone with charisma and a considerable following like Ryan Garcia.

            Haney doesn’t have much charisma, so he’s not a great option if Kambosos wants to attract a HUGE crowd for his next fight.

            As for Tank Davis, his promoters at Mayweather Promotions will likely reject the idea of him going to Australia. I don’t think that’s going to happen for a second.

            As such, if Kambosos is insistent on his next fight taking place in Australia, you can automatically exclude Tank Davis as being one of the guys that could be his next opponent.

            The only real options for Kambosos’ next fight are Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney. It’s pretty apparent which one DiBella and Kambosos will pick between those two.

            https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/208352/208352












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            • #86
              Originally posted by illpapi View Post

              Well, after the fight they were talking about it and the Spanish dude kept saying that they needed to take the training wheels off of Tank and Andre took issue with it. I was listening to it. And if Andre actually went somewhere else and then said that then he is a hypocrite. As I said I was listening to their conversation. Andre did say that they all needed to fight each other and something about Tank facing top opposition but had an issue with the taking the training wheels off comment. I know I'm not crazy and I was not even drinking that night.
              If u are speaking of the Loma fight Sat night…Ward said it before the fight…not after. And Ward is one of Tanks biggest critics as can be seen online..would be surprised if he actually defended Tank. They actually had a back and forth…Davis has taken issue with Wards criticism, like him and his team have with all the other boxing media criticism of his weak opposition.
              Last edited by IRONCHINHAGLER; 12-14-2021, 09:45 AM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Post
                If u are speaking of the Loma fight Sat night…Ward said it before the fight…not after. And Ward is one of Tanks biggest critics as can be seen online..would be surprised if he actually defended Tank. They actually had a back and forth…Davis has taken issue with Wards criticism, like him and his team have with all the other boxing media criticism of his weak opposition.
                Yeah, it was after the Loma fight and as I said before Ward took issue with the 'taking off the training wheels off' comment. I mean he was talking about facing better opposition for sure. However, I don't understand how he would have said those exact same words before and then have a problem with it when someone else says it. I'll see if I can find the clip and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                  How can someone be a Featherweight from 2015 to 2019 (8 fights) and be considered a "career" Bantamweight? Only if you want to make it fit your narrative! LSC is defined by his Frampton and Mares fights @ 126! If Tank fighting him at 130 is a cherry pick, what was Loma vs. Rigo? I​​​​ don't see the same level of hate coming from you and others when that happened!

                  How convenient to forget Commey lost to Robert Easter Jr.! Yeah, that caliber! Yeah he stepped up, and got knocked out twice! He is what he is!

                  How can we hate on Haney, when Haney put himself in line for Loma, and it was Loma who decided to go another direction? Not once, but twice? Commey was not necessary, since Loma was WBC #1! See that's OK, but Tank fighting Issac Cruz is a cherry pick!

                  I want the BIG fights too, but I'm tired of all these folks with very selective outrage!
                  He is a career batamweight because he fought most of his career at that weight +20 fights, so career batamweight yes, that's how it works. No need to fit my narrative, it's a simple fact.

                  Rigo was not a fair fight either size wise Agreed, but many fans asked for it Rigo was undefeated unlike LSC so the fight had some people intrigued. But it was an useless fight.

                  ​​​​​​Regarding Haney he is bashing Teo for losing but keep fighting stiffs let's see if Haney keep his 0 when he runs through Davis, Loma or Kambo.
                  DIaz is good but small ar 135 struggled with fortuna.I think Haney lose Bad to Loma.or Tank, he doesn't have enough power to keep them at bay, nor a good enough defense to match their offensive skills.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by BillyBoxing View Post

                    He is a career batamweight because he fought most of his career at that weight +20 fights, so career batamweight yes, that's how it works. No need to fit my narrative, it's a simple fact.

                    Rigo was not a fair fight either size wise Agreed, but many fans asked for it Rigo was undefeated unlike LSC so the fight had some people intrigued. But it was an useless fight.

                    ​​​​​​Regarding Haney he is bashing Teo for losing but keep fighting stiffs let's see if Haney keep his 0 when he runs through Davis, Loma or Kambo.
                    DIaz is good but small ar 135 struggled with fortuna.I think Haney lose Bad to Loma.or Tank, he doesn't have enough power to keep them at bay, nor a good enough defense to match their offensive skills.
                    Many fans asked for it, and Rigo asked for it, just like Leo Santa Cruz! LSC had only 1 loss and one draw, and had never been KO'd! Haney can bash Tank, Ryan, Teo, and Loma, because Haney has been begging to fight Tank, Ryan, Teo, and Loma! Telling Haney to "go fight someone" when they're not fighting someone is weak! All 4 of them had a chance to take that WBC title, and all 4 chose someone else! Ryan Garcia is the worst, because he had a clear path to the WBC, and he chose Jo Jo Diaz instead!

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                      Interested in your thought on this...

                      DiBella Talks Lomachenko Being Kambosos WBO Mandatory

                      Promoter Lou DiBella says his fighter undisputed lightweight champion George Kambosos Jr. doesn’t have to fight Vasily Lomachenko next if the WBO orders him to defend against the #1 ranked contender right away. DiBella states that if the WBO orders Kambosos to fight his mandatory Lomachenko (16-2, 11 KOs), they can petition the sanctioning body to allow them to fight someone else next for a “significant fight.

                      The promoter also says there’s a period when the mandatory is due after it’s ordered by the World Boxing Organization, which may allow Kambosos to slip a fight in between that before facing Lomachenko. What’s clear from listening to DiBella speak, he doesn’t sound eager about letting Kambosos face Lomachenko next. Indeed, DiBella sounds like he’s totally against that idea, and it’s pretty obvious why. What we saw from Lomachenko last Saturday night in dismantling former IBF lightweight champion Richard Commey to win an easy one-sided 12 round unanimous decision, it’s logical to assume that Loma would do the same thing to Kambosos.

                      Kambosos Can Do Whatever He Wants

                      DiBella believes that his fighter Kambosos is in the driver’s seat, sitting like an emperor of sorts, being able to pick & choose whoever fighter he wants for his next fight.

                      That attitude will immediately filter out Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis as one of the options for Kambosos’ next fight because his promoters, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Leonard Ellerbe, aren’t going to allow their #1 cash-cow travel to Australia and take their chances with the judges. “He’s the emperor, he can do whatever he likes right now, and he wants to fight in Australia. He’s made that very clear to his whole team,” said promoter Lou DiBella to Fighthype when asked about George Kambosos Jr. wanting to fight in Australia next.

                      “Let’s wait for them to do it, and then when they say there’s a mandatory, there’s a time period for when you have to do a mandatory,” DiBella said in reacting to being told that #1 WBO ranked contender Lomachenko is expected to be made the mandatory by the WBO for lightweight champion Kambosos.

                      You can also petition to have a fight in between if it’s another significant fight. There are a lot of things that can happen [that will allow Kambosos to fight someone else rather than Lomachenko next]. “I’m adept at dealing with the rules, and we’ll handle it. Look, Lomachenko has always certainly been on a shortlist of “He’s ultimately going to decide who, when, and where, honestly,” DiBella said of Kambosos. “He keeps reiterating that he wants the biggest fights. “He doesn’t want just an ordinary opponent, and he’s ultimately going to decide,” said DiBella about Kambosos.

                      The Australian is a great talker, but he’s not going to talk his way to a victory over Lomachenko, and DiBella knows that. He realizes the limitations Kambosos has. Hence, he’s talking about ways to swerve the fight with Kambosos so he can fight someone else next.

                      DiBella Says Kambosos To Keep Improving

                      Whether Kambosos can keep improving or not is debatable, as he’s limited in the power department, and he’ll never be as skilled as someone like Lomachenko. For Kambosos to have a shot at beating Lomachenko, he’s going to need to study him and try and come up with the ideal game plan to defeat his style in the same way he did to defeat Teofimo Lopez last November.

                      In Teofimo’s case, he was injured, fighting with an esophagus and lung problem against Kambosos, which has been diagnosed by a doctor.

                      Moreover, Teofimo was weight drained for the fight, and his trainer sounded lost in his career, failing to come up with the proper instructions to offset what Kambosos was doing during their battle on November 27th. “One thing about George, and I’m doing to say I’m guilty also,” DiBella continued about Kambosos. “This kid believed in himself and knew he was capable of this the whole time.

                      “I think he feels that the world didn’t see what he saw, and maybe I’m a little bit guilty too. I knew he was a terrific fighter, but to go in there and dominate on the biggest stage at the biggest moment of his life under difficult circumstances, I give him all the credit in the world, man.

                      “He did something magical in a fight that was delayed, postponed, and he had to train under unusual circumstances,” DiBella said of Kambosos. “He trained in Australia most of the time without his #1 trainer with him with limited sparring because of where he was.

                      “He always believed, and his dad believed that he was destined for greatness. Maybe the rest of us were a little bit guilty of taking it with a grain of salt, but when you’re out there, and you can prove.

                      “When you are as confident as George and have that self-belief, and you tell everyone exactly what you’re going to do, and then you do it. That’s pretty awesome.

                      “The sky’s the limit for this kid,” DiBella said about Kambosos. “I think he’s going to keep getting better, and he’s going to keep rising to the occasion, so I’m excited to see what’s ahead for George Kambosos. DiBella is probably right that Kambosos will keep improving as a fighter, but will it be enough for him to defeat Lomachenko, WBC lightweight champion Devin Haney, WBA champ Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis, or Ryan Garcia? I don’t know.

                      With Kambosos saying he wants his next fight in Australia, he’ll likely get the benefit of the doubt for any close rounds against those fighters. Still, if he faces Ryan or Tank Davis, those guys have the power to take the judges out of the equation entirely.

                      As far as Kambosos winning by decision, Haney is the most beatable guy for him in a 12 round fight because he’s chinny, and loses rounds when he’s pressured, hit hard, and forced to deal with a fighter that lets his hands go.

                      Lomachenko’s skills will make him a nightmare for Kambosos. You can argue why his promoter DiBella is outwardly saying that they don’t have to necessarily fight him next if the World Boxing Organization orders the Kambosos-Lomachenko fight next.

                      For DiBella to be talking about that openly last Saturday night, it suggests that he wants to steer Kambosos around Lomachenko.

                      DiBella understands what Kambosos would be up against if he were to face a talent like Lomachenko, and he’s likely going to try and avoid the Ukrainian at all costs.

                      We’ll likely see Kambosos fighting Haney or Ryan Garcia next for good money in a stadium fight in Australia. It’s doubtful that Kambosos will draw 80,o00 fans for his next battle in his home country, though.

                      That’s Kambosos dreaming out loud when he talks those crazy numbers for his next fight in Australia. Still, he should bring in a respectable number of and, particularly if he faces someone with charisma and a considerable following like Ryan Garcia.

                      Haney doesn’t have much charisma, so he’s not a great option if Kambosos wants to attract a HUGE crowd for his next fight.

                      As for Tank Davis, his promoters at Mayweather Promotions will likely reject the idea of him going to Australia. I don’t think that’s going to happen for a second.

                      As such, if Kambosos is insistent on his next fight taking place in Australia, you can automatically exclude Tank Davis as being one of the guys that could be his next opponent.

                      The only real options for Kambosos’ next fight are Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney. It’s pretty apparent which one DiBella and Kambosos will pick between those two.

                      https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/208352/208352











                      Interesting stuff, I think Kambosos fought a 60% Lopez at best. Lopez probably drops top much weight at this point as he is under 25 and still getting heavier. He outgrew 135. So staying at 135 to fight Kambo was ******, high risks low rewards. I also believe what the doctors say and that he was ill. I think his corner gave him bad advices before and during the fight. He didn't fight for more than a year. A young fighter with less than 15 fights need to stay active. But hey, it's Teo's problems, his a'ss lost.

                      On the other hand Kambo fought the fight of his life.

                      A healthy Lopez in a rematch aware that Kambo can fight and take a punch at 140 beats Kambo IMO
                      The thing is Lopez was not ready physically and mentally for this fight, but again, he should mainly blame himself and his father.

                      Lopez looks like in a bad place now, his trainer and he went nuts.

                      ​​​​​​Kambo is a good fighter, still a dude who fought a SD with Mickey Bey and Lee Selby. He has shot versus Haney, he could outfight him even if Haney is the better boxer. Loma is all wrong for Kambo. Garcia is the easier fight maybe but he can viciously punch and has no belt, not a deep record. Haney has a belt to become undisputed and would be a better win on paper than Garcia. Haney is better than Garcia but somehow less dangerous and more predictable.


                      ​​​​Haney has a fantastic jab, good punch selection, but he is not slick at all and has very basic power. So he's a classic boxer. He's tall and long. I don't like how he hold his chin high while fighting mid range.Diaz had no pop,dude is 50% KO coming from 126, but Tank or Loma, small skilled southpaw like Diaz would hurt Haney IMO. Tank is a beast and Loma hurts, drops most of his opponents with shots they cannot see. Loma is just not a finisher.

                      Haney will be ready later, he can thank Téo, Loma and Tank for ''ducking'' him.

                      I also believe Loma.is a dark horse and might be undisputed by the end of 2022 if.he can keep his body without injuries.
                      I believe Loma.was injured vs Lopez and the sugery pictures were no fluke. Maybe it didn't affected him that much since he did better in the second half of the fight. But I'm not counting Loma out and if you put a gun on m'y head, I pick Loma over any 135 pounders but Davis where I see it as 50-50. Davis is younger thicker,stronger, his body IS fresh, Loma got more skills and experience.

                      So Haney vs Kambo makes perfect sense.for both fighters, undisputed.




                      Last edited by BillyBoxing; 12-15-2021, 03:20 AM.

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