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  • Rodtang
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    #41
    Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

    Nice!



    You should've just STFU after we BOTH agreed on the fact that Loma took on a bigger challenge than Haney....and went on to garner 4.2M views and so on. Show me Devin's DAZN numbers. That's always the bottom line in boxing. Y'all talk Haney up so much but can't wrap your feeble ass minds around the fact that he ISN'T the hot ticket you're making him out to be at the negotiations table.

    Everybody and their mama knew a 21 year old, untested, and unknown Haney had ZERO shot at Loma regarding marketability. See, this is what drives the sport....money and marketability...something YOU should know as a boxing fan.

    If a guy's unknown but is in line as the mandatory, he won't have much of a chance landing the fight if the champion has bigger, better options in site. This is why guys are paid step-aside money and so on. Stay with me.

    If Loma's not this big attraction then he should've been eye-level with Haney in regards to popularity and that fight would've been made already. Guys....nooooobody knew who Haney was back in 2019 when his name was being mentioned in the same sentence as Loma. He had a nice KO highlight reel from his fight on DAZN, but that's just not enough bro. You know this.

    Loma took on Lopez and lost- his choice. Why can't you see that Lopez was the bigger ticket than that of a Haney at that time? Bro, Teo did exactly what Team Loma said....go get a title first then we'll fight. He kept his word and yall so nostalgic about that fight. Again, no mention of Haney at that time.

    You've started with the ad hominem madness and the cowardly exit of "stay lucky" so I'll let you run off. It's not like I was ever speaking to you to begin with anyway.

    PS: Go learn the sport! The minute you have to depend on sanctioning bodies to make fights happen, it's a clear indication that you're not as big of a ticket as you claim to be. When you're paid and you're the attraction, the sanctioning bodies hunt you down to create belts to keep the fighter in their good graces. It all comes down to the money. Haney brings money to himself, not the situation itself. There's a difference.
    I'm not saying he's the hot ticket. I'm not saying he does better numbers. You may be correct that he doesn't. Again your changing the point away from my argument. That's because you have no answer to it. Haney is bring ridiculed. That's fact. Your doing it right now. That's fact. He doesn't deserve it that's fact. And its a fact you've not been able to prove otherwise during your argument. Instead you want to prattle on about bigger challenges and most numbers and buisness. None of which I'm disagreeing with. And as well as disrespecting Haney your doing it to me also in the process lol. You really need to focus and think a little. That might give you a better chance of getting with the program.

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    • Rodtang
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      #42
      I'm staying with you. Why didn't Loma pay the step aside then? Why the BS franchise move? Maybe nobody knew Haney. I'm not disagreeing with you there. But nobody knew Kambosos ( a mandatory ), and looked what happened there. But Haney gets brushed aside then guys like you ridicule him. Not deserved. Are you staying with me?

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      • Rodtang
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        #43
        Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

        Nice!



        You should've just STFU after we BOTH agreed on the fact that Loma took on a bigger challenge than Haney....and went on to garner 4.2M views and so on. Show me Devin's DAZN numbers. That's always the bottom line in boxing. Y'all talk Haney up so much but can't wrap your feeble ass minds around the fact that he ISN'T the hot ticket you're making him out to be at the negotiations table.

        Everybody and their mama knew a 21 year old, untested, and unknown Haney had ZERO shot at Loma regarding marketability. See, this is what drives the sport....money and marketability...something YOU should know as a boxing fan.

        If a guy's unknown but is in line as the mandatory, he won't have much of a chance landing the fight if the champion has bigger, better options in site. This is why guys are paid step-aside money and so on. Stay with me.

        If Loma's not this big attraction then he should've been eye-level with Haney in regards to popularity and that fight would've been made already. Guys....nooooobody knew who Haney was back in 2019 when his name was being mentioned in the same sentence as Loma. He had a nice KO highlight reel from his fight on DAZN, but that's just not enough bro. You know this.

        Loma took on Lopez and lost- his choice. Why can't you see that Lopez was the bigger ticket than that of a Haney at that time? Bro, Teo did exactly what Team Loma said....go get a title first then we'll fight. He kept his word and yall so nostalgic about that fight. Again, no mention of Haney at that time.

        You've started with the ad hominem madness and the cowardly exit of "stay lucky" so I'll let you run off. It's not like I was ever speaking to you to begin with anyway.

        PS: Go learn the sport! The minute you have to depend on sanctioning bodies to make fights happen, it's a clear indication that you're not as big of a ticket as you claim to be. When you're paid and you're the attraction, the sanctioning bodies hunt you down to create belts to keep the fighter in their good graces. It all comes down to the money. Haney brings money to himself, not the situation itself. There's a difference.
        Why have you not answered my point about Loma filing for exemption. I'm not sure you even understand the concept. Time for you to go learn the sport. But you've probably already googled it and realise you have no legitimate answer that backs up your Haney hate agenda.

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        • Squared.Circle
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          #44
          Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

          Haney was denied the opportunity for obvious reasons.....nobody knew who he was! Plain and simple! So many of you are trying to talk and dance around that point and it's embarrassing on your end(s).

          And speak to me like an adult....I don't say or adhere to crap like "clout chasing" and "cap" or any of that other urban hogwash. Y'all know damn well NOBODY wants to see an unknown fighter in against a Unified Champion in Lomachenko at that time.

          I didn't know the concern for belts was such a big deal nowadays, but some of you have thrown your cape on and took off soaring! Business is business and everybody knows Haney/Lomachenko was NOT big business....it wasn't business AT ALL. Haney couldn't hold a candle to any of Loma's past opponents and I know for sure he would've slowed down the Loma train with his lack of notoriety.

          Haney isn't big business at all and you know it.
          What the fuxk has just happened? You've gone from rigorously denying that Haney actually wanted to fight Loma, it was all just smoke and mirrors, to "Haney was denied the opportunity for obvious reasons"

          Another guy talking bollocks just for the sake of talking bollocks

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          • OhG
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            #45
            All That talk about Haney and the Lomo situation is all a publicity stunt and bull****, Bob Arum was never going to give Haney, Lomo and will never get him, Bill Haney pulled a quick one with lies on Bob and Bob wasn't to HAPPY with bull**** Bill!!!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Rodtang

              I'm not saying he's the hot ticket. I'm not saying he does better numbers. You may be correct that he doesn't. Again your changing the point away from my argument. That's because you have no answer to it. Haney is bring ridiculed. That's fact. Your doing it right now. That's fact. He doesn't deserve it that's fact. And its a fact you've not been able to prove otherwise during your argument. Instead you want to prattle on about bigger challenges and most numbers and buisness. None of which I'm disagreeing with. And as well as disrespecting Haney your doing it to me also in the process lol. You really need to focus and think a little. That might give you a better chance of getting with the program.
              Bro, just go away then! If you’re a real boxing fan (which you ARE NOT) then you’d understand that nothing else matters but the dollar….whether the fighter walks away with it or not.

              All of this crying about belts is a pain in the ass and a waste of time. Money or no fight. That’s been the script since day 1.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Squared.Circle

                What the fuxk has just happened? You've gone from rigorously denying that Haney actually wanted to fight Loma, it was all just smoke and mirrors, to "Haney was denied the opportunity for obvious reasons"

                Another guy talking bollocks just for the sake of talking bollocks
                Some of y’all goofy SOBs act like money’s never been the reason fights happen and/or fall apart and it shows with your belt banter! Grow up and learn the sport!

                Nobody cares about the mandatory, interim, blah blah blah…it’s ALL about the money. Stop wasting your time.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

                  Some of y’all goofy SOBs act like money’s never been the reason fights happen and/or fall apart and it shows with your belt banter! Grow up and learn the sport!

                  Nobody cares about the mandatory, interim, blah blah blah…it’s ALL about the money. Stop wasting your time.
                  But what happened to the whole 'Haney never wanted it'? You can get the measure of a man by how quick he moves the goal posts in the face of facts.

                  So what you're saying is, Haney never deserved a shot at Loma; Haney was a mandatory, nobody cares about mandatories; if it doesn't make money, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't happen; and Loma took the smart route by fighting López for the IBF? So, why did López fight Kambosos instead of collecting the last gem from Haney? Kambosos was a mandatory, Kambosos didn't bring nearly as much money as López vs. Haney would, Kambosos was an absolute unknown in comparison to Haney. Where's the business in that?

                  If the belts really don't matter and it really is all about business, why did Loma fight López instead of Haney? I guarantee Loma would have made more money fighting Haney.

                  Sorry to burst ya liccle fantasy bubble, kiddo, but the belts matter, and so do mandatories.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by MeanestNiceGuy

                    Bro, just go away then! If you’re a real boxing fan (which you ARE NOT) then you’d understand that nothing else matters but the dollar….whether the fighter walks away with it or not.

                    All of this crying about belts is a pain in the ass and a waste of time. Money or no fight. That’s been the script since day 1.
                    For some yes. But there are still some fighters out there true to the honour and tradition of creating legacy and being the best they can be. Haney is one. Kambosos another. Josh Taylor too. What fighters earn is not our concern. A true boxing fan should want to see the best fights. And fighters shouldn't be ridiculed if they want them and can't get them. So No I won't go away. I'll keep watching the sport and continue to advocate for fighters that are genuinely trying to make the sport great again, rather than pander to social media queens who think they're special because there's more than enough idiots out there that praise them for mediocrity. Haney may still be only marginally above that mediocrity bracket, but it's not for the want of trying to make the big fights. So he indeed deserves praise for that instead of continual disrespect.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Squared.Circle

                      But what happened to the whole 'Haney never wanted it'? You can get the measure of a man by how quick he moves the goal posts in the face of facts.

                      So what you're saying is, Haney never deserved a shot at Loma; Haney was a mandatory, nobody cares about mandatories; if it doesn't make money, it doesn't make sense, it doesn't happen; and Loma took the smart route by fighting López for the IBF? So, why did López fight Kambosos instead of collecting the last gem from Haney? Kambosos was a mandatory, Kambosos didn't bring nearly as much money as López vs. Haney would, Kambosos was an absolute unknown in comparison to Haney. Where's the business in that?

                      If the belts really don't matter and it really is all about business, why did Loma fight López instead of Haney? I guarantee Loma would have made more money fighting Haney.

                      Sorry to burst ya liccle fantasy bubble, kiddo, but the belts matter, and so do mandatories.
                      Didn’t you just say Loma ducked Haney and took on Franchise status to avoid the fight? Why drop one belt to go after another one against a much tougher opponent.

                      Listen, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it for the last time….money ALWAYS moves the needle…not a frickin belt. History has repeatedly proven this and it often puts you soy boys in a frenzy because the sport isn’t “following the rules” when a guy is the mandatory and blah blah blah.

                      You’re riding for a guy (Haney) who had ZERO leverage at the time he became the mandatory. Trust me bro, nobody was ever threatened by Haney and if anything, he was just a young pup in the way while grown men handled business.

                      We’re gonna get Lomachenko/Kambosos by late Spring. Devin’s irrelevant bro. He still doesn’t stack up against the current lightweights because he’s fighting on that ****** app and he’s not a big a draw as he believes he is. We have Loma vs Commey tomorrow…Devin won’t be thought about. Bet that.

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