Face the facts, GGG is the only guy who could beat Canelo from 154-175

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  • BendOver
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    #61
    Originally posted by TBETroll

    Undefeated Smith, BJS, and Plant arent lesser. Canelo not cutting to make weight is what has made him so good. His boxing is uber elite too
    Nah, he was fine cutting weight and, bringing smaller fighters to his division. Smith and Saunders are not nor were elite fighters, like Mayweather, Lara and ggg. And plant came to fight, but was outgunned. He unified a weak division, not his fault. They are a couple of young guns coming up the ladder. Hopefully one of them could be the guy that, can offer a good fight. Be safe

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    • TBETroll
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      #62
      Originally posted by BendOver

      Nah, he was fine cutting weight and, bringing smaller fighters to his division. Smith and Saunders are not nor were elite fighters, like Mayweather, Lara and ggg. And plant came to fight, but was outgunned. He unified a weak division, not his fault. They are a couple of young guns coming up the ladder. Hopefully one of them could be the guy that, can offer a good fight. Be safe
      Lara, elite? Wat

      Plant wasnt just outgunned, he was beaten up and outboxed. Its not difficult to shell up for 10-12 rounds and throw a token jab or counter. Just ask Joshua Clottey or Mikey Garcia. Plant was in survival mode and he STILL couldn't survive.

      Plant is not elite but he is adept defensively

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      • BendOver
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        #63
        Originally posted by TBETroll

        Lara, elite? Wat

        Plant wasnt just outgunned, he was beaten up and outboxed. Its not difficult to shell up for 10-12 rounds and throw a token jab or counter. Just ask Joshua Clottey or Mikey Garcia. Plant was in survival mode and he STILL couldn't survive.

        Plant is not elite but he is adept defensively
        Plant wasn't outboxed. The ginger went thru his shots like nothing, that's outgunned. And yes Lara in his prime was elite. Just ask canelo.

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        • elfag
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          #64
          canelo stops current ggg


          GGG and his stans billed himself as this avoided fearless terminator. Claimed anyone 154-168 could get it. GGG had two shots against canelo, canelo gave him two different looks, boxed him and walked him down. GGG had 2 chances and 2 styles to convincingly beat canelo and he blew them. He could have erased all doubt of who was the better fighter. Instead he had two close fights and now his legacy is crying he was robbed with canelo and hyping up his close win with jacobs. beyond that its all bums he faced.

          Canelo has moved on and cleared out 168. GGG used to day dream about taking on the champs at 168. Now Canelo is all the champs at 168


          Last edited by elfag; 11-10-2021, 10:32 AM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by BendOver

            Plant wasn't outboxed. The ginger went thru his shots like nothing, that's outgunned. And yes Lara in his prime was elite. Just ask canelo.
            If all Plant could do was shell up and through pitter patter jabs that's being outboxed. Plant was too concerned of a counter punch to sit on his punches. That's being outboxed. Boxing is NOT just potshotting and moving...it is also CONTROLLING the tempo and exchanges. Canelo outboxed AND outgunned Plant.

            Lara, elite? Prime Lara? The one who went life and death with Vanes?!?!?! The one who was afraid to punch at pre-prime Canelo?!?!?

            Yeesh

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              #66
              Originally posted by elfag
              canelo stops current ggg


              GGG and his stans billed himself as this avoided fearless terminator. Claimed anyone 154-168 could get it. GGG had two shots against canelo, canelo gave him two different looks, boxed him and walked him down. GGG had 2 chances and 2 styles to convincingly beat canelo and he blew them. He could have erased all doubt of who was the better fighter. Instead he had two close fights and now his legacy is crying he was robbed with canelo and hyping up his close win with jacobs. beyond that its all bums he faced.

              Canelo has moved on and cleared out 168. GGG used to day dream about taking on the champs at 168. Now Canelo is all the champs at 168
              Wow that's a murderous perspective. Sadly it kind of rings true, too. GGG is living off Canelo the same way Floyd does. Floyd nor GGG ever achieved lineal/undisputed status and neither guy jumped 2 weight classes overnight. I'm not saying Canelo is better than GGG or Floyd (though he clearly is better than GGG) but Canelo has accomplished more in a sense.

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                #67
                Beterbiev is a bigger version of GGG

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                • BendOver
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by TBETroll

                  If all Plant could do was shell up and through pitter patter jabs that's being outboxed. Plant was too concerned of a counter punch to sit on his punches. That's being outboxed. Boxing is NOT just potshotting and moving...it is also CONTROLLING the tempo and exchanges. Canelo outboxed AND outgunned Plant.

                  Lara, elite? Prime Lara? The one who went life and death with Vanes?!?!?! The one who was afraid to punch at pre-prime Canelo?!?!?

                  Yeesh
                  I didn't see any out boxing nor a masterful class. I saw a very determined fighter, canelo, going after Plant's body, and Caleb couldn't keep him away, because he didn't have the high caliber guns to make him think. That's what I saw.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by BendOver

                    I didn't see any out boxing nor a masterful class. I saw a very determined fighter, canelo, going after Plant's body, and Caleb couldn't keep him away, because he didn't have the high caliber guns to make him think. That's what I saw.
                    So Floyd, at 152lbs and 35 years old, had more guns to keep Canelo away than 29yr old 168lb Plant.

                    Yeesh

                    Floyd outboxed Canelo and Plant isnt Floyd

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                    • F l i c k e r
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                      #70
                      Yup but GGG is over the hill now.

                      he's not doing anything at 40 years old to beat Canelo now

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