Canelo is good but not great

[Floyd is TBE]

There is always an “IF” though. IF a guy had this, IF a guy had that

Canelo fans love their "what ifs" so it's a fair question. Not a day goes by where Canelo fans aren't declaring Canelo could beat Floyd Mayweather or Roy Jones IF they fought in their primes.

[whollisboxing]

Canelo fans love their "what ifs" so it's a fair question. Not a day goes by where Canelo fans aren't declaring Canelo could beat Floyd Mayweather or Roy Jones IF they fought in their primes.

I’m not referring to mythical matchups. Those are realistic “what if’s “ because you’re comparing different fighters as is.

I’m talking about the type of “what if’s “ that involve adding attributes to a fighter that they don’t have.

An example would be “Caleb Plant would have beaten Canelo Alvarez IF he had more power”.

My point is that you could do that with anybody when they lose.

[GhostofDempsey]

Crawford and Spence are naturally his size. They each walk around over 180 pounds and they are each taller. Yet they are still draining themselves down to 147.

[Roadblock]

I’m not referring to mythical matchups. Those are realistic “what if’s “ because you’re comparing different fighters as is.

I’m talking about the type of “what if’s “ that involve adding attributes to a fighter that they don’t have.

An example would be “Caleb Plant would have beaten Canelo Alvarez IF he had more power”.

My point is that you could do that with anybody when they lose.

Anyone can beat anyone if they have more fantasy, that's the flavor of this forum, reality rides in the back seat in here.

[Tails]

The weird thing is people don't realize that most super middleweights are going to take early rounds against him because they all have a significant height and reach advantage over him. Dude is short but really stocky.

A good jab will always give him problems but he negates it by consistently pressuring with feints and loading up on calculated power shots to have guys hesistant to throw the jab or over exert themselves with thinking if they want to start trading with him up close.

In my opinion it is going to take someone durable with good hand speed and power along with skill to beat Canelo at this point as far as 168 goes. I just don't see anyone having the legs and stamina to keep him from breaking the down over the course of a full 12 rounds. And I emphasize 12 rounds because he will bank on trying to finish you in those last 2 rounds.

[Scopedog]

The guy's got the best resume out of anyone in boxing even though I personally don't think he should have some of those wins. If he doesn't count as "great" then frankly I don't think there's anyone else currently fighting that does.

[TreyShaw]

Crawford and Spence are naturally his size. They each walk around over 180 pounds and they are each taller. Yet they are still draining themselves down to 147.

Tells you how special canelo really is.

But to be fair it’s not just a height thing Canelo is naturally broader and thicker than Bud and Spence. Just look at canelos thighs they’re big and his neck is huge dude looks like of those pit bulls in the magazines. To where Bud and Spence are naturally skinnier all around.

[hugh grant]

Nel o is great but i d like him to have a win in his mid 30s on wards and that would maybe move him up to upper echelon

[GhostofDempsey]

Tells you how special canelo really is.

But to be fair it’s not just a height thing Canelo is naturally broader and thicker than Bud and Spence. Just look at canelos thighs they’re big and his neck is huge dude looks like of those pit bulls in the magazines. To where Bud and Spence are naturally skinnier all around.

Same comparison can be made to Porter. Broader and thicker and competed as a natural middleweight in the amateurs. The middleweight limit was also bigger than pros at 165.

Spence says he wants the Canelo fight. That would be a huge fight if it ever happens.

[TreyShaw]

Same comparison can be made to Porter. Broader and thicker and competed as a natural middleweight in the amateurs. The middleweight limit was also bigger than pros at 165.

Spence says he wants the Canelo fight. That would be a huge fight if it ever happens.

True Porter is a thick mofo but he’s also shorter than all them at 5’6 right?