What is Gennady Golovkin's Record Against These Middleweights from the 1990s?

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    What is Gennady Golovkin's Record Against These Middleweights from the 1990s?

    The 1990s were stacked with MWs and so much so, that legitimate top level fighters like Herol Graham never won a title. Golovkin obviously had a long reign as champion and is one of the best since the 90s. So what is his win/loss record against these fighters below:

    Herol Graham
    Mike McCallum
    Julian Jackson
    Reggie Johnson
    Bernard Hopkins
    Sumbu Kalambay
    James Toney
    Michael Nunn
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    He would beat all of them in devastating fashion. Canelo only survived because he is on PEDs and was suspended because of it.

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      Hard to say, but I think that he beats all of them convincingly except for Hopkins and McCallum. I think Toney would fade in the latter half of the fight. Jackson would do as well as Lemieux, relatively.

      With Hopkins and McCallum, I would have to go back and look at their fights to say definitively, but prime for prime, I'm going to say 50/50. Maybe 55/45, with the edge to Golovkin.

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        Originally posted by Cypocryphy
        Hard to say, but I think that he beats all of them convincingly except for Hopkins and McCallum. I think Toney would fade in the latter half of the fight. Jackson would do as well as Lemieux, relatively.

        With Hopkins and McCallum, I would have to go back and look at their fights to say definitively, but prime for prime, I'm going to say 50/50. Maybe 55/45, with the edge to Golovkin.
        Kulambay would be a VERY tough match up for Golovkin.

        I can't go with Golovkin beating all those other guys convincingly since he couldn't beat any of the top MWs convincingly that he has fought. Golovkin vs top MWs always ends up being exciting and competitive. I'd suspect that would happen with these guys as well. I don't see anyone dominating Golovkin either.

        Go watch some of Kulambay's fights if you haven't in a while. No way he loses convincingly to Golovkin.

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          He loses to all of them

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            Originally posted by LeOoze
            He loses to all of them
            You must think Canelo really sucks then

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              Originally posted by KTFOKING

              Kulambay would be a VERY tough match up for Golovkin.

              I can't go with Golovkin beating all those other guys convincingly since he couldn't beat any of the top MWs convincingly that he has fought. Golovkin vs top MWs always ends up being exciting and competitive. I'd suspect that would happen with these guys as well. I don't see anyone dominating Golovkin either.

              Go watch some of Kulambay's fights if you haven't in a while. No way he loses convincingly to Golovkin.
              Yeah. I'll go check it out!

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                Man most people on here probably haven't even seen clips of half of those guys. Yet they will come on here and say they know exactly how fights would have gone and that GGG would have lost all of them, or won all of them. Case in point is LeFool above.

                GGG is too good with the jab and too active for nearly anyone around 160. To beat him, you would need to avoid the jab and outbox him over 12 rounds - someone like Nunn could have a chance doing that. I think GGG would beat him similar to what Toney did, but who knows.

                Jackson would be a very tentative fight with GGG just working behind the jab and probably stopping the Hawk as the fight went on. Always have to give the Hawk a solid chance though.

                McCallum would be a very crafty fight, I think the toughest one for GGG. Hopkins would make it pretty ugly but I think GGG would outwork him most rounds. Hopkins was a spoiler but GGG's jab is too solid to not find the range there, in all likelihood.

                Toney would be a great fight early but I do think he would fade late under GGG's workrate.

                The other guys, I really have never studied in that much detail. I'd have to think GGG is a solid favorite over all of them, they weren't really the top level, but who knows.



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                  Originally posted by Boxing-1013

                  You must think Canelo really sucks then
                  Hahahah Touche, as they say.

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                    Originally posted by KTFOKING

                    Kulambay would be a VERY tough match up for Golovkin.

                    I can't go with Golovkin beating all those other guys convincingly since he couldn't beat any of the top MWs convincingly that he has fought. Golovkin vs top MWs always ends up being exciting and competitive. I'd suspect that would happen with these guys as well. I don't see anyone dominating Golovkin either.

                    Go watch some of Kulambay's fights if you haven't in a while. No way he loses convincingly to Golovkin.
                    Man the only 50/50 fight GGG has had on the cards was vs Derevy. It is fair to say that if he couldn't beat Derevy clean, then all of those guys would have a chance. And that's true. But the formula for beating GGG is not an easy one to replicate. You have to be tough as hell, and give as good as you get. Most guys will not want to go to war, or aren't equipped for it. Or don't have the workrate to match GGG's.

                    Two guys really fought him even as long as the fight lasted - Ouma and Derevy. And both guys paid for that, and not everyone could do what they did anyway.

                    That was the problem for both Danny and Canelo in all 3 of those fights. He didn't win those 3 fights 10-2, but he did win them all convincingly. There is no way to 7 rounds for Danny, and no way to 6 for Canelo in either fight. Both guys just got outworked in those 3 fights. It happens.
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