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  • #21
    Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
    To bad we never got to see Spence vs Crawford. Same as early/mid 90's. Never got to see Lewis vs Bowe. But this is probably second best fight to make at welter skelter
    Not according to MY eye test. You're going off resume without taking into account slippage, wear and tear and age. I bet back in 2015 you were one of those saying that a faded Pac would be Mayweather's toughest test when Thurman, Porter, Brook and Spence were all making noise or starting to make noise.

    Same deal now. Spence is accident/injury compromised, Porter just has to be battle-worn and Crawford has to be time compromised - he'd be an athletic freak if he was sharper at 34 than he was at 32 years of age - that's just how time works. Now it's Ennis and Ortiz stomping in the background and nobody dare's to mention them.

    When we get a champion who runs towards these challenges instead of being scared to even breathe their names or asking 'what have they done? ' - then that is a champion who everyone should celebrate.

    This was why those WBSS tournaments were so great - if you were in them you cared and you dared and if you prevailed you were often as not the undisputed champion. Step forward Usyk, Inoue and Taylor - champions who ran towards the heat!
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    • #22
      Originally posted by Oldskoolg View Post

      Bingo. On the money
      I'm putting money on a Bud KO now

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post

        If there is 1 thing Porter has is strong ass legs. His legs will get him back up even if his head is cloudy but again Bud is a much better finisher than the others. I did think he was hurt after Broner dropped him and it was off a counter. Buds going to counter him all night imo.

        But mucho respect, we will see fight night. I am happy for Bud for getting this opportunity, Ive just never been a fan of Porters style.
        that won't help him stop the ref jumping in to stop the punishment

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        • #24
          Originally posted by SteveM View Post

          that won't help him stop the ref jumping in to stop the punishment
          Thats what Im saying, Bud is 1 of if not the best finisher in boxing. I predict a 1 sided beating.

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          • #25
            The obvious choice here is Crawford, but a Porter win will not surprise me.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by SteveM View Post

              Not according to MY eye test. You're going off resume without taking into account slippage, wear and tear and age. I bet back in 2015 you were one of those saying that a faded Pac would be Mayweather's toughest test when Thurman, Porter, Brook and Spence were all making noise or starting to make noise.

              Same deal now. Spence is accident/injury compromised, Porter just has to be battle-worn and Crawford has to be time compromised - he'd be an athletic freak if he was sharper at 34 than he was at 32 years of age - that's just how time works. Now it's Ennis and Ortiz stomping in the background and nobody dare's to mention them.

              When we get a champion who runs towards these challenges instead of being scared to even breathe their names or asking 'what have they done? ' - then that is a champion who everyone should celebrate.

              This was why those WBSS tournaments were so great - if you were in them you cared and you dared and if you prevailed you were often as not the undisputed champion. Step forward Usyk, Inoue and Taylor - champions who ran towards the heat!
              Yeah Crawford seems to be happy with one belt, like Stevenson, wilder and holmes.
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              • #27
                I'm having a hard time understanding why Kenny Porter is in favor of this fight for Sean with T Crawford. I had much higher expectations for Kenny's knowledge of talent while having the ability to put aside the desire for big payday. I just hope and pray (for Sean's heath) Kenny does the right thing, throws the towel before too much permanent damage is done to Sean.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post


                  I have to say that I disagree with Terence Crawford on his assessment of 'Showtime' Shawn Porter : In 2010 Ricky Burns was considered the #1. Superfeather-weight when he beat Roman Martinez for the WBO 130 championship. Shawn Porter best win was Adrien Broner ( I had Danny Garcia beating Porter ), burns continued his outstanding career at lightweight, capturing the WBO lightweight interim vs. Michael Katsidis, then the full title off Moses Paulus.

                  In 2013, Ricky Burns was finally robbed against the drug cheat, Raymundo Beltran ; who went on to face Terence Crawford for the lightweight lineage. Its important to note that Shawn Porter's best win Adrian Broner was the only lightweight above Ricky Burns at 135 for his win over Antonio Demarco for the WBC lightweight championship.

                  What has Shawn Porter done that is better than Irelands first three weight champ, Ricky Burns? Nothing. I know what it is, its the glorified welterweight division, and PBC/Toprank propaganda -- the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao influence, that's it ; kinda like how HW has been over-glorified.

                  Shawn Porter's size and athletic ability is really what all the fuzz is about, I think he's trash ; Porter does not have the skills to compete at higher weights like the Rickster. There is no way that Shawn Porter beats the top 5 jr. middleweights, but Burns has done it three times.

                  Shawn Porter has recently talked about being inducted into the HOF, I think Ricky Burns is way ahead of you buddy ; how many title defenses have you had again? One successful IBF title defense against Paul Malignaggi, and one robbery vs. Yordenis Ugas for the WBC welterweight title? Yeah, see you in Canastota in 2097, Porter.
                  That's a mixed up and muddled post but somewhere in there you are talking some sense.
                  1/ given you crap all over British fighters I'm thinking you're being sarcastic about Burn's legacy.
                  2/ Jumping weights is not necessarily the most important. Look at Broner's non legacy. I'd rather see a fighter continually clear out a division of the cream that rises to the top or at least try to.
                  3/ I get what you are saying about Porter being big enough to fight at LMW and staying at WW because he can do better there. But that's what 1/2 the modern fighters do - Spence, both Charlos, Sor Rungvisai at 115, Ramirez when at 168, Calum Smith when at 168, Broner when at 135, Hurd when he was at 154 and the list goes on. Fact is Porter has challenged himself at 147 more than any other fighter the last few years - honorable mention to Brook (Porter, Spence, Crawford and Golovkin suicide mission)
                  4/ Ricky Burns may merit HOF more than Porter in your view but the voting members show the same favoritism towards American fighters that you normally display. If Benn and Eubank Sr. are still not in the HOF then senor Burns has less chance of coming in than he does of winning a title in a comeback run.
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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Curtis2 View Post
                    I'm having a hard time understanding why Kenny Porter is in favor of this fight for Sean with T Crawford. I had much higher expectations for Kenny's knowledge of talent while having the ability to put aside the desire for big payday. I just hope and pray (for Sean's heath) Kenny does the right thing, throws the towel before too much permanent damage is done to Sean.
                    Of course he will, or ref will give a tko or the doctor will stop the fight

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post

                      Thats what Im saying, Bud is 1 of if not the best finisher in boxing. I predict a 1 sided beating.
                      it will be competitive in the beginning, there might even be slip/stumble by Crawford as Porter clumsily body bumps him after lunging forward, but by 2nd half of the fight Porter will have taken a lot of punishment

                      people said that Brook was 'gone' when he fought Bud but that's not the full story - his offence and defense were good but not his punch resistance. Bud took Kell's offence, turned the tide and got Brook out of there. Porter will be a LOT more obdurate and tough but just like Herring this past Saturday - toughness has its limits.
                      Last edited by SteveM; 10-27-2021, 12:50 PM.

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