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  • #21
    Originally posted by BangEM View Post
    Something Hearn needs to learn that boxing is mostly a narrative thing - not the hard fights you keep throwing your boxers in continuously.

    I won't be shocked if Wallin sparks Whyte tbh. Another unnecessary risk that might backfire.
    I feel like you've said before this is an unnecessary risk. No comprehendo. You want to see good fights or not? Seriously, is there some personal investment in him where you don't want to see him challenged and lose?

    I've seen enough fights against "nobody ever heard of him" opponents. Whyte is accomplished enough; he's not a newbie. He can and should take good fights.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post

      Sparks Whyte!? Who is the last person he even beat by KO? He isn't "Sparking" anyone
      He's a southpaw and every HW can punch a bit.

      If he trains to land a clean uppercut - he has a good shout.

      AJ crushed Whyte uppercut resistance and his soul leaves his body every time someone connects.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Nash out View Post
        it worked for Sugar Ray Robinson with Jake Lamotta. Nash out.
        Wrong! The Pound-for-pound ranking did not exist when Sugar Ray Robinson was fighting. That list is a relatively modern-day invention.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

          He’s about as right as he was when he claimed “PPV is dead”.

          Fury beat a 10 years undefeated Klitschko making his 19th defence in the away corner Germany.

          Then he beat a 41-0 Wilder who was making his 11th defence in the away corner in America.

          Whether you think they were “distracted” or not those are the facts.

          No HW has two better wins in the last 20 years.
          Well, yes but that is not a problem here. Lets pretend that P4P rankings matter and you have ESPN ranking where Fury is sixth and moved to fourth while defeating boxer he already defeated (while fights not being that close, but that is for another discussion). It is not about if you have Fury on P4P list but if second win against Wilder really moved a needle like that?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Verus View Post

            Wrong! The Pound-for-pound ranking did not exist when Sugar Ray Robinson was fighting. That list is a relatively modern-day invention.
            People have been talking about P4P way before even SRR.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by BangEM View Post
              Something Hearn needs to learn that boxing is mostly a narrative thing - not the hard fights you keep throwing your boxers in continuously.

              I won't be shocked if Wallin sparks Whyte tbh. Another unnecessary risk that might backfire.
              Exactly this!
              It's more about selling people their own imagination than the quality of fighters and fights.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BustedKnuckles View Post

                I feel like you've said before this is an unnecessary risk. No comprehendo. You want to see good fights or not? Seriously, is there some personal investment in him where you don't want to see him challenged and lose?

                I've seen enough fights against "nobody ever heard of him" opponents. Whyte is accomplished enough; he's not a newbie. He can and should take good fights.
                I prefer a level playing field where all boxers take tough fights and are judged based on that.

                However, when you have two boxers picking cans to knock off whilst fighting each other repeatedly for 3 yrs get all the praise for that. And the ones taking the tough fights are shiiited on - it's not a level playing field. It's cheating.

                Let's be honest: boxing is entertainment and mostly based on narrative albeit it's a very dangerous/brutal sport. So you have to be smart as a boxer and working smart with a good narrative is better than working hard.

                Whyte is on the cusp of a title - no point taking that type of fight. I said the same thing when he took the Povetkin fight. It's pointless and he has to be smarter.

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                • #28
                  Hearn is just bitter that Fury has proved his superiority to Hearn's biscuit-chinned male model. Fury tried to move on and make the fight with AJ, but first Wilder threw his toys out of the pram and went crying to Judge Judy, then Usyk conquered Goliath...
                  Motofan, and like this.

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                  • #29
                    That's because Fury doesn't loose when he's not fighting shot past it old men like Rematchroom's cash cow.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by James Hunt View Post

                      Exactly this!
                      It's more about selling people their own imagination than the quality of fighters and fights.
                      It's not a level playing field - just narrative.

                      We see a case where a boxer took back to back brutal beatdowns yet he's still rated highly despite not having a worthy resume. And another boxer who's yet to beat anyone since he came back from a ban apart from the one-trick pony that built a name off knocking off cans.

                      Hearn keeps moaning but does he care? If he does, he'd do more to protect the boxers signed to him and stop acting like a boxing buff. His job as a promoter is to build up a fighter and also create a narrative. And he's obviously not doing that.
                      Last edited by BangEM; 10-18-2021, 09:04 AM.

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