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  • #31
    Of course slick Eddie would say that. Didn't expect anything different. It would be the same if the shoe was on the other foot and it be AJ.

    The difference is wilder would KO AJ, Whyte and Ruiz. All three have lost their identity. AJ is afraid to take a punch, ruiz lost so much weight that he hasn't adjusted and when hit is off his core, whyte has become slower and is also now weary of getting KOd... Wilder is not. Let me repeat. Is not afraid of taking a punch.

    Any of the shots fury took from wilder would of had AJ, whyte, ruiz, usyk in their bum KOd. Fury is just a different animal. Usyk might outpoint wilder but that's the only one out of them. They are shorter and wilder fairs better against shorter opponents.

    AJ might know techniques but he's not very good at implementing them. He is only good when's he gets someone hurt and goes for the kill. Yes the same can ne said about wilder, but his style and power beats those guys in my opinion. Hopefully we get to see these matchups.

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    • #32
      Rematchroom's Edward also said today that Fury will have to wait until September to face Usyk. Meaning Edward presumes his hypejob cash cow will loose to Usyk again.
      Finally some honesty xD
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      • #33
        Originally posted by kafkod View Post

        $120million for his mando with Breazeale then 2 fights with AJ. Wilder must be bitter at Haymon and Finkel for not allowing him to accept that deal.
        He was wrong to turn down that money but at the same time he was lucky he did.
        Firstly Aj didn't have a dazn contract so Aj couldn't sign to guarantee the fight which Wilder wanted, like when Jabobs signed Canelo was in the contract but when GGG signed Canelo wasn't in the contract & even with both on the books no trilogy happened.
        Secondly the bigger issue. Aj then got ktfo by Ruiz & Rematchroom really kicked into gear. Wilder would have then been forced by Edward to fight his Aj blocker B-sample xD
        Last edited by Bob; 10-15-2021, 10:02 AM.
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        • #34
          Wilder usually lands his money punch at some point during a fight. Only Fury has been able to get back up. I think a fighter needs an exceptional chin to beat him. That rules out Whyte and Joshua, Usyk gets hit, too. Not sure what his chin is made of.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by famicommander View Post
            Whyte doesn't move his head and has been chinned in several fights against much weaker punchers than Wilder. Parker and Rivas had him on dream street, Joshua and old man Povetkin iced him. Wilder would do to Whyte what he did to Breazeale.

            Joshua would also go down early. He fights scared and if you fight scared against Wilder he's going to unload bombs until you fall down. Fury proved that the way to beat him is to step to him and Joshua hasn't stepped to ANYONE since old man Klitschko nearly stopped him.

            Usyk might be trouble for Wilder, though. Just depends on if Wilder could land.
            excatly. Hearn is so damn annoying. Joshua does indeed fight scared. Usyk would give Wilkder fits, but the other two would get iced.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Toffee View Post
              Makes perfect sense. Pretty much everybody outboxes Wilder, but he always has a decent puncher's chance.
              Exactly. I'm reading all these salty comments here about "slick Eddie" - it's as if people want to say something nasty about him, but not really sure that they have a reason, but do it anyway. If anything, Eddie is somewhat even banal in saying this. And who wouldn't be? It doesn't matter who Wilder fights - you will never have full confidence that he'll lose because he's got the equalizer. He has enough power to scratch even some of the best chins in the history of the sport and none of the current H/W have that kind of historical level iron chin. So yeah...even Whyte would probably outbox Wilder, but he's also the most likely to go down because he's the least technically sound compared to Usyk and AJ. Eddie is 100% right here and it has nothing to do with the fact that Wilder is not in his stable or on DAZN.
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              • #37
                Whyte would get brutally stopped by Wilder. Brutally.

                He has little defense, isn't half the technician Fury is, has 1/4 of the boxing skills, the same power and is way smaller.

                Wilder would have a power punchers field day.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                  Usyk, josh, joyce, dubois, ruiz, hrgovic beat wilder. These 6 fighters could go 12 rounds with fury whilst losing to fury. I can't give wilder credit for just being in ring with fury whilst being stopped.
                  No way. Only Usyk stands a chance out of that lot. Stop fooling yourself.

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                  • #39
                    Wilder beats whyte n aj , quicker longer reach more power n theyre chinny get dropped hurt by ppl half wilder power all the time for aj it seems. only person to get back up from a wilder shot is fury whos bigger by 40-50lbs longer n just as quick. Usyk vs wilder to me the best match at heavyweight .usyk similar size to ortiz now quicker better iq younger by 10-12 yrs . ortiz schooled wilder til his 45 yr old legs n cardio gave way 2 issues wont see from usyk. Better ? When wilder lands can usyk get back up. Only fury did n wilder usually will land atleast 1 to drop u in the fight.

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                    • #40
                      Problem with Wilder is he has fought so few decent (non old) fighters it's hard to know how he would fair against more conventional HWs. Even Fury was a cherry-pick - old and fat and retired. If we had at least seen Wilder against Whyte we would have an idea but he spend 600+ days running from that fight. It does suggest Wilder doesn't have much confidence in himself

                      It does seem that AJ in particular would be vulnerable to Wilder but AJ boxed VERY well for a HW against Usyk. (Usyk is just better) So I'd say AJ still has a good chance in that fight. Wilder is very fast and excellent at landing his right hand so he can beat anyone on his day but I'd pick Usyk to beat him for sure

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