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  • #11
    If Joshua can make it reasonably close on the cards corrupt judges can do the rest.
    Joshua by split decision robbery

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    • #12
      Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post

      It's a positive take, and it's pride to a point, and some would say you have to take it.

      But ffrom a boxing perspective, I don't think AJ has anything else to offer at all, and Usyk has him figured out and will be more confident and active. Usyk retains the belts and the unification with Fury will be nuts.
      We shall see....one thing we have learned about heavyweight boxing is that no one is undefeatable and defeat doesn't define one's legacy in boxing.
      Honest Honest likes this.

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      • #13
        Joshua is certainly up against it, the adjustment he needs to make is mental, not physical. He is a super heavyweight with size, strength and power, he shouldn't be fanning about at mid range trying to solve the theory of relativity, get in there and stick it on him.

        dougingb dougingb Honest Honest like this.

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        • #14
          Whether you like it or not, I say again: Joshua CANNOT box, he lacks the fundamentals such as ring movement, foot positioning etc. He can punch, he can brawl but he cannot box. Same with Wilder. You want to know why? Because they are late starters, they didn't box like Fury, Ruiz Jr or Usyk from childhood/teenage years. Thanks for reading this.
          P to the J P to the J likes this.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Honest View Post
            Whether you like it or not, I say again: Joshua CANNOT box, he lacks the fundamentals such as ring movement, foot positioning etc. He can punch, he can brawl but he cannot box. Same with Wilder. You want to know why? Because they are late starters, they didn't box like Fury, Ruiz Jr or Usyk from childhood/teenage years. Thanks for reading this.
            A.J out boxed Ruiz every round in the rematch , Warren is just repeating what he said then as he is now .


            Warren on the Ruiz rematch .

            “Joshua’s had his loss, he’s had his ass whooped. Should he even be going back into a rematch? Maybe he should take some time out. Recuperate and make some dramatic decisions about his team," Warren told Metro.co.uk. "I’d be seriously thinking about saying no to the rematch, because I don’t know if mentally Joshua can be right for it. I would seriously consider changing his trainer, and a lot of his team. His entourage is gigantic."
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-14-2021, 11:51 PM.

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            • #16
              Usyk has to ko aj, otherwise they will buy the match.

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              • #17
                I don't think AJ has much chance in the rematch. You have to remember it's quite different than the Ruiz rematch. For Ruiz 1, AJ was winning the early rounds, and had just knocked down Ruiz, but showed poor experience/ring generalship in trying to finish Ruiz while ignoring basic defense, and he paid the price for it. For the Ruiz rematch, he KNEW he had a good chance of winning, because he honestly just needed to not get careless and the win was his. For Usyk 1, he was losing the vast majority of rounds, and he didn't knock down Usyk (or even close to it), and on top of that, he got buzzed/attacked at the end of the 12th without getting careless like in Ruiz 1. Bottom line: I don't think he has a chance vs. Usyk except to go in guns blazing and hope for a KD/KO early (because he can't sustain this style for more than 1-2 rounds), although he knows in his heart that this gameplan will probably end up getting himself KD/KO'd. He will have too much uncertainty and lack of confidence to pull this off.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                  Same old song and dance ,it’ll be Ruiz fights all over again . A.J wins the rematch and marches onward to a Fury showdown .
                  I disagree. Usyk is not Ruiz. Usyk outclassed Joshua all ends up. To win, the Ruiz rematch, Joshua just had to be himself. I don’t think there’s anything Joshua can become that Usyk won’t see coming in the rematch.

                  Let’s find out…

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Honest View Post
                    Whether you like it or not, I say again: Joshua CANNOT box, he lacks the fundamentals such as ring movement, foot positioning etc. He can punch, he can brawl but he cannot box. Same with Wilder. You want to know why? Because they are late starters, they didn't box like Fury, Ruiz Jr or Usyk from childhood/teenage years. Thanks for reading this.

                    Yeah, his foot positioning his awful. I can’t believe his team haven’t managed to fix this now he’s 12 years (or whatever) into boxing.

                    Even ****heads like Logan Paul don’t stand square like Joshua does.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by P to the J View Post

                      I disagree. Usyk is not Ruiz. Usyk outclassed Joshua all ends up. To win, the Ruiz rematch, Joshua just had to be himself. I don’t think there’s anything Joshua can become that Usyk won’t see coming in the rematch.

                      Let’s find out…
                      He rocked Usyk bad at one point with a lead left hook you could see his knees buckle and he was rattled ,nothing really needs to be changed but being more aggressive and getting actual advice in the corner which is what the biggest concern should be despite that one judge had it 115/113 which reflected the actual fight . Everyone keeps saying it was one sided which is false ,the last couple rounds gave that illlusion .
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-15-2021, 03:44 AM.

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