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  • #41
    Originally posted by OGBIGSACK View Post
    exactly! wilder just got knocked out cold after previously being stopped he is out of the heavyweight title picture for a long time. he didn't deserve getting a rematch with fury in the first place!!! aj needs to forget about wilder until beyonce proves himself aj
    has usyk to worry about! on top of that beyonce wilder being that diva that he is and his ten different managers always make it difficult to get a deal done.
    I have never seen a boxer do so little and get the praise Wilder gets (same goes for Fury). Both fought each other for 3 yrs in trying to black ball AJ and freeze him out. But now they want him to cash out. It doesn’t work that way - he has to earn it.

    All the people he ducked to fight bums are still there. He has to fight and beat them to get his shot. The guy is fffcking bum.

    AJ would be a m0ron to even entertain the fight without Wilder paying his dues.
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    • #42
      Originally posted by EternallyIll View Post

      They made 125 Million revenue With Fury-Wilder 2 and they were still expecting to make more. They wouldn't keep charging $70-$80 for every Wilder PPV if they were losing money on them. Even before fighting Fury the revenue on the second ortiz fight was 25M per espn. everything you say is so full of ****.


      You’re brain dead.

      $125m would be the highest grossing HW fight in history. Canelo vs GGG 1 didn’t even generate anything close to that.

      You have be a m0ron to believe those figures. The fight officially only sold 350k PPV.

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      • #43
        Hearn will NEVER put Joshua in the same arena as Wilder!
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        • #44
          Originally posted by BangEM View Post

          I have never seen a boxer do so little and get the praise Wilder gets (same goes for Fury). Both fought each other for 3 yrs in trying to black ball AJ and freeze him out. But now they want him to cash out. It doesn’t work that way - he has to earn it.

          All the people he ducked to fight bums are still there. He has to fight and beat them to get his shot. The guy is fffcking bum.

          AJ would be a m0ron to even entertain the fight without Wilder paying his dues.


          Thing is, I actually agree with some of this, re:freezing out.

          I’m still a boxing fan, though, and I’d still rather see AJ vs. Wilder next rather than Wilder vs. A.Bum.
          Our biggest historical complaint about him has been his fighting grannies from the retirement home.

          Personally, I don’t really want to see him go back to them because I want to be entertained; I’m not watching boxing to ensure AJ or whoever gets treated fairly.

          Let’s get the real fights on, no more excuses.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by thack View Post
            Hearn will NEVER put Joshua in the same arena as Wilder!
            For all his faults, he spent about 3 years trying to do just that and so did DAZN.
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            • #46
              Lot of luster gone from it, but it's still a huge fight. Just not the multi-100mil HW-superfight-to-end-all-superfights it would've been in 2018.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by El_Mero View Post
                Its an interesting fight but def NOT massive as it couldve been.
                Wilder would still make 20 million minimum fighting AJ. How massive does it need to be? That's good money for a fight that will not last 5 rounds either way

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                • #48
                  Joshua-Wilder would be fun to watch. First person that lands flush wins!

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by P to the J View Post
                    Thing is, I actually agree with some of this, re:freezing out.

                    I’m still a boxing fan, though, and I’d still rather see AJ vs. Wilder next rather than Wilder vs. A.Bum.
                    Our biggest historical complaint about him has been his fighting grannies from the retirement home.

                    Personally, I don’t really want to see him go back to them because I want to be entertained; I’m not watching boxing to ensure AJ or whoever gets treated fairly.

                    Let’s get the real fights on, no more excuses.
                    I think AJ vs Wilder has gone past what the fans want. Fans are very fickle and a lot of hate towards AJ stems from the false narrative Wilder put out there. And now that his career is over - he’s trying to cash out with AJ. It doesn’t work like that.

                    Wilder stalled the whole division by denying Whyte his shot and colluded with Fury to freeze AJ out. So why do you expect AJ to do him any favours by giving him an opportunity to earn his biggest purse now that he has nothing to offer AJ? Wilder fight isn’t even a legacy fight at this point and AJ can beat Usyk/Fury and still be the best of this era. He doesn’t need Wilder and he’s always going to be a draw. Wilder on the other hand can’t earn too dollar unless he fights AJ.

                    Fury fight is the fight to push for after Usyk - win or lose. He should hold out for that. Fury also knows he needs AJ for retirement money because there’s no other in the division bigger than that.

                    Wilder should focus on everyone he ducked. Clean house on PBC if he can (I don’t think he last 5rds trading with Ruiz). Fight Whyte/Parker. And earn his shot after Fury vs AJ.

                    Wilder isn’t even a real fight - he’s a bum with a shiiitty resume who destroyed the division. Narrative won’t change that. And when purists look back in posterity - they will see him for who he’s.

                    I will never forgive that bum for stalling the undisputed fight to fight Fury. He gave Fury a lifeline at the expense of his. AJ needs to let him lick his wounds and pay him back in the same coin.
                    Last edited by BangEM; 10-13-2021, 03:56 PM.
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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by EternallyIll View Post

                      They made 125 Million revenue With Fury-Wilder 2 and they were still expecting to make more. They wouldn't keep charging $70-$80 for every Wilder PPV if they were losing money on them. Even before fighting Fury the revenue on the second ortiz fight was 25M per espn. everything you say is so full of ****.
                      Hey you ok , hey you listening

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