Kownacki was being groomed to be fed to Wilder until he lost to Helenius and Wilder lost to Fury. They've both now lost their respective rematches, so their essentially still in the same boat as each other. So Kownacki might be a decent option to get Wilder back in the saddle. And then after that go for a big fight.
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I don’t think any heavyweight outside of fury beats or even lasts 12 with the version of Wilder that fought on Saturday. Maybe Usyk because of his excellent skill. The problem is, after that beating, I don’t think that version of Wilder can return. He’s likely gonna be damaged goods.
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I think Wilder takes a year off and comes back to face the undisputed champ.whoever that may be (Whyte my.pick).
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Originally posted by Tecnoworld View PostNever been a wilder fan, but he had actually improved for this match. Imo he can now beat 99% of boxers out there. Not sure just for: Usyk, Joyce and Hrgovic. He beats all the others.
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I wouldn't expect Wilder to retire either. He can beat most heavyweights that he gets in the ring with. However, he will struggle against the very best if he doesn't improve his skills. He can't box. It's only so far that power can take him. I hope he realized this in facing Fury. He only has a few fights left in him as he is approaching 40. He needs to do three things: take a long time away to repair his body, (2) replace his trainer (It's like the blind leading the blind with Scott), and (3) he needs to become a true/real boxing fan. He must fall in love with the sport (not the money; not the fame). He must watch a lot of film involving the greats. He must take notes on the sweet science of the sport. If Wilder can't find a way to fall in look with the art of boxing......He must retire now!
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Hope he loses about 10 lbs of muscle. I’m impressed with his courage. He won’t ever beat fury but he could and probably will beat everyone else as long as he can still physically respond at the championship level. Any right hand he lands on anyone else in the division destroys them. Problem with wilder is he simply doesn’t seem able to be a complete fighter. He boxed perfectly in the first two rounds and after that he abandoned it and never threw left hooks at all and certainly never hooked to the body. What he practised to do he only seemed to do partially and only for a couple of rounds and then went back to being himself. I’ve never been a fan of his style, I’ve always found it downright frustrating and counter-productive….that being the case, it’s hard to not want to see him fight and produce ko’s. I’m concerned about his body seemingly breaking down…broken hands, torn biceps, busted eardrums, shot stamina etc etc. We shall see. I’m not what of these toxic people older haters but I wonder where his direction goes now. I will say this, all of you who blasted Scott were dead wrong….he DID give Deontay the guidance he needed to win but Deontay seems too stubborn to listen to it.
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Originally posted by Tecnoworld View PostOr ajagba. Puncher vs puncher, but wilder is far superior.
Wilder should join Matchroom, make lots of money and get a couple of fairly easy fights under his belt to get his confidence back, then match him up with Charles Martin, Robert Helenius and then maybe a Andy Ruiz….gets him right back in the mix of things, but he needs to stay away from Fury…he most definitely has his number!Tecnoworld likes this.
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Originally posted by IRONCHINHAGLER View Postdidnt really see the improvement…a few jabs to the body in the 1st 2 rds…then resorted bak to the only thing he knows- load up with the right hand and miss wildly the majority of the time. No combo punching…no inside game..nothing new defensively, even seemed slower with added weight. With the exception of rd 4 obviously…got mauled and beatdown just like the 2nd except he “went out in his shield” - face first.
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Originally posted by Monty Fisto View PostScott's words mean nothing here -- and I say that, because Wilder wouldn't have previously discussed retiring on account of thinking he could win this.
Now that he's had two stoppage losses in a row, including a punishing knockout on Saturday, it is at least time to consider what would be the point in continuing. With all the will in the world, he won't be fighting again for at least six months and his come back would almost definitely be against some lesser opponent to try and rebuild. The earliest we might expect him to get a shot at another belt would be when he's 37 and that's in the kind of age territory where reactions times are decreasing and that could be dangerous. No reason to think he couldn't steam roll some nobody next, but it wouldn't do much for his career. He'd need to face a live dog to really restore any shine and I think that might be a risk given his age.
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